{"id":59720,"date":"2022-04-04T11:37:38","date_gmt":"2022-04-04T10:37:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.orgelimstephansdom.at\/?p=59720"},"modified":"2022-04-04T11:37:38","modified_gmt":"2022-04-04T10:37:38","slug":"gesendet-sonntag-03-april-2022-um-1002-uhr-von-philipp-stastny-an-brigitte-betreff-wurm-im-staat-zackzack-at-https-zackzack-at-2022-04-03-wurm-im-staat","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/orgelimstephansdom.at\/?p=59720","title":{"rendered":"Gesendet:\u00a0Sonntag, 03. April 2022 um 10:02 Uhr Betreff:\u00a0Wurm im Staat – zackzack.at https:\/\/zackzack.at\/2022\/04\/03\/wurm-im-staat\u00a0"},"content":{"rendered":"

Man sendet mir….<\/span><\/p>\n

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IHR H\u00c4NGT AN EUREM MITL\u00dcGEN als an „eurem Lebensfaden“!<\/span><\/h2>\n

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so schlicht.. ihr l\u00fcgt euch prinzipiell auf andere zu. \u00dcberdies „bleibtma beim Geld“, sind Altersbutten sich schlau Verwendende und so weiter…<\/span><\/p>\n

Wer euch wahr liebt, kann euch nur in eurem L\u00fcgenwollen achten und lassen. Ihr wollt euch so. Und wenn ich dich liebe, dann werde ich deinen Willen immer zutiefst achten. Nur irgendwo beginnt meiner zu mir dann auch, und genau da trennen sich die Wege. Bei dir dauernd, du L\u00fcgenschippel, bei mir ein Mal. Das ist der Moment, wo ich dich in mir zerfallenlassen mu\u00df, in das ewige Wesen, das wundersch\u00f6n ist, und das Gebildchen, als das du dich herumreichen willst, aus Gr\u00fcnden, die zu hinterfragen mir nicht ansteht noch zusteht..<\/p>\n

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Wie sieht das Ganze feinstofflich aus, also was hat sich da feinstofflich, wesensr\u00e4umem\u00e4\u00dfig zwischen uns abgespielt? Ich kann es dir sagen!<\/span><\/p>\n

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Wir gingen auf einander zu, herzwahr. Wir \u00f6ffneten einander R\u00e4ume der Wertsch\u00e4tzung, Freude, geistreich und waren einander echtes Freuen, Labsal, Trunk. BIS HIERHER WAR WAHR. Und wahr bleibe danach nur ich \u00fcbrig<\/p>\n

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Man liest gerade Gas ab…. 26% Verteuerung, sagt der gute Mann. Und der Sm\u2200rtmeter daneben funkt ganz gl\u00fccklich..<\/strong>\u00a0______mit dieser Absurdheit sagt ihr selbst ganz klar, es gibt um Strahlungskrankmachung auch da, wie mit G5 – Grey-Technologie.. aber Ludwig steht immer noch mimm Fingi im Mundi B\u00fcrgil\u00fcgi… und schenkt wohl weiter seinen Geliebten je a Haus. keine Ahnung, leider keine Karrierem\u00f6glichkeit f\u00fcr mich. \/\/. Und die deppertsten Ladies befriedigen hier andere E-Manzen mit E-Card als UmsEckMitIdol, na und so kommen wir eben zu Politikern, die grausam genau wie wir sind. Das ist nat\u00fcrlich grauslich unfein von denen, aber wer soll’s \u00e4ndern, wennma selbst so sind, lediglich kleiner nur, es zsammbringen? hihi, iss daas listdigglust-igg.________ \u00a0DANKE VERRATSHAUSGIERGIERUNG, danke \u00f6sterreichische Diplom@AT.ie, danke GlobalApolloPolli, und da ich grade beim Anbeten bin, danke, Jupitermondvertr\u00e4ge und so weiter.<\/p>\n

Die, welche mir gesund normal zu begegnen w\u00fcnschen: WIR LEBEN ECHT IN EINER PARALLELWELT, weil dieses erstickende L\u00fcgenverwachsene einfach alles in sich einkloaken will. Frischen Raum meiden die alle wie die Pest, die sie selbst so werden. Nur: die Parallelwelt seid ihr: ohne Format. Mit „Erkenntnissen“ und „Entt\u00e4uschungen“ und „Entdeckungen“, dassma sich fragt. BITTE, WO WAR DEIN HIRN UND HERZ UND AUGE BISHER?????<\/p>\n

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Das ist doch alles klar ersichtlich!<\/p>\n

Dea iss a foische Numma. Die Wiener Rechtsanwaltskammer ist die Bastion ihrer Starverachtungskanonenkugeln alles Richtigen und Wahren….<\/p>\n

ES IST ALLES GEWUSST: und ihr auf ein DuSollstNichtMerken derartig kunstdressiert,<\/p>\n

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wie man -Achtung!! — nur wahr Hervorragendste zum Mitl\u00fcgen verbasteln \u00fcberhaupt, und das \u00fcber Generationen noch, kann.<\/p>\n

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es isst das<\/p>\n

es ist das<\/p>\n

und ich selbst bin, alt nun schon, immer noch am Mich\u00fcberhauptgegenzugehenbeginnen: aus all der Hirnverbiegerei, DIE MAN MIR INS Kindchenherz, das unendlich starke, BEGEISTERT!! lastete.<\/p>\n

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DAS ist nicht Leben!!! Du ein Faulsack und menschlich ein gfrastlter Trottl, ichbequem, banal, primitiv und egomanisch bis in die Puppen. Ich bin mit Herz geboren; ohne das ersticke ich …<\/p>\n

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und so ist mein Weg: zuerst dich lieben; dann langsam alles lernen, was du dich zu lernen weigerst, und lieber in mich ablastest und mir ins Herz schei\u00dft. Dann weiterlieben, nun nicht dich sondern das Leben. Dann die kr\u00fcppelhafte D\u00fcrftigkeit deines „bewu\u00dften“ Willegebildes sehen,<\/p>\n

nun wie dich das mit anderer Fehlsichdenkf\u00fcgen verbunden sehen und immer noch erleben….<\/p>\n

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UND NUN BIN ICH ICH:<\/p>\n

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ich liebe dich, denn wir teilen tiefe Werte.<\/p>\n

Dir \u00a0brach man da die Kraft, mir hier.<\/p>\n

Du fandest diesen Unterschlupf in der L\u00fcgenprotzkrankw\u00fcste, ich da.<\/p>\n

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Langsam aber vermorschen die Rankkloakenschlingen… die L\u00fcgenw\u00fcste fri\u00dft ihre Kinder: die Ther-ApeBeuten, die Hackld\u00e4mlicher und ihre \u00dcberheblichkeitspuffnuttenv\u00e4ter, die schon mal das T\u00f6chterl einreiten und die Mutta schaut zuaaa: „woos heed ii denn tuan soin“ zit. Fr. Fritzl seniora. Und der JUSTIZMINISTERIN fallt net ein, die, der die Kinder ihrer Tochter mit ihr’m Mann ausm Keller unter ihr hochgwachsn sind, z’fragn: „Hamms net a Polizeistation irgendwo in da N\u00e4‘ ghapt?“<\/p>\n

Und weil das alles immer weiterging, sind nun etliche vergiftimpft, haben ihr Kind verloren wir zahlen nun Irrenpreise f\u00fcr Gas…. und ich finde weiterhin Crowd Farming schlicht PRIMA, und was auf der Erde an F\u00f6rderlichem, Hochvern\u00fcftigen neben traditionellen und guten Arten und Weisen eben auch geht.<\/p>\n

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ICH ZAHLE NUN MEHR F\u00dcR GAS, WEIL „meine Regierung“ meine Mitmenschen, deren einige ich bedauerlicherweise echt im Herzen tragen nur kann, nicht nur mit dem ganzen Kronkrankheitserregungs-1,3106-„Abwicklungsgraffl“ die Umwelt sauverdrecken hat m\u00fcssen – als Plastkverzichtpolitik <<<. ——– ich zahle mehr f\u00fcr Gas, um damit die G5-T\u00fcrme-Errichtung, die meinen Mitmenschen die Zellw\u00e4sser total in Unordnug dauerh\u00e4lt – Krankheitzwang geradezu….<\/p>\n

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DIESE BRUNZSCH\u00c4DEL sind aber von meinen Mitb\u00fcrgern die ganze Zeit abgesegnet!!!!<\/p>\n

Also halte ich den Mund, bin dankbar, wenn es sich irgendwie ausgeht, und<\/p>\n

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und rede immer wieder selig mit dem ewig Kostbaren meiner Mitmenschen, ob sie’s landen dann k\u00f6nnen, oder im L\u00fcgensumpf wieder untergehen, den sie aus Gr\u00fcnden, die mir zu \u00fcberlegen nicht ansteht, vorziehen, vorl\u00e4ufig?, zu wohnen und leben.<\/p>\n

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Entt\u00e4uschungen?<\/p>\n

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Komme mir nicht mit so l\u00e4cherlich,<\/p>\n

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Der Mensch ist BEWEGLICH Raum!!!<\/p>\n

Wenn du Wahreres findest, kannst du deine Achse reinigen, weich.. und nun als Baum unter B\u00e4umen gedeihen, Str\u00e4ucher darum nicht verachtend, denn du lebtest als diese auch, nur warst du’s nicht wesenswahr.<\/p>\n

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Wesenswahr beweglich…. so wir-St. du, was du wahr in deinen Zugeh\u00f6rigkeitenlandschaften bist.<\/p>\n

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Du wir.St. hochfein beweglich um deine heilige Achse… du bist Erde! Denn in ihrer starken Achse tr\u00e4gt sie die deine kraftvoll mit und wahr.<\/p>\n

Wenn du nagelst: dich verkriechst, wie der Lustiggottessohn Christus auf einen geschl\u00e4gerten, grob behauenen Baum… SO WIRst du unwahr…. unwahr mit der Erde, unwahr mit dem Werden und mit dem Gedeihen… UND DAS WILLST DU,\u00a0SO DICH AUCH,<\/em> noch m\u00f6glichst vielen NETT!!! hineinficken.<\/p>\n

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M\u00e4dels! Besaufen, in die Disco, und dann nimmer wissen, wer in euch brunzte. Wenn einer neben euch zuf\u00e4llig aufwacht, und ihr Kinder wollt, sagt der euch dann trocken, er hat schon und wollte nur eben auch mal hygienischen Quickfick.<\/p>\n

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Gehst du zu deiner Mutter weinen, …. versteht die dich nicht. DAS IST DOCH Genau so so urgeil!!?<\/p>\n

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da\u00df daraus keine kraftvollen klaren Denker wACHSEn werden…. so kriagst ka stoaks Baamal.<\/p>\n

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W-ERDEN ist hochbeweglich: wachse ich keine Wertestrukturen aus meinem kraftvollen Ewigwesen in mein Menschsein herein—–oder mein Menschsein meinem umfassenden Wesen wieder entgegen wahrgesund….<\/p>\n

werde ich in der stampfenden Pampe zu Melasse, voll klar, denn RAUM und Strukturen sind laufend einzubringen<\/span> \u00fcber mein Feinstffliches in die kraftvoller als ich Einzelner je kann<\/em> ERDEGESTALTUNGSGEWEBESTR\u00d6ME:<\/p>\n

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Wenn ich nicht aus meinem alleinklanglichen Raumwesenwesensraum laufend UNVERWEBTES nachziehe, bin ich recht schnell Pampe in Kloake. DAS ist klar.<\/p>\n

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UND DAS IST FALSCH!<\/p>\n

Denn da es anders gedacht ist, anders schlich abl\u00e4uft, gesund…IST KLAR, da\u00df alles schiefrennt, wenn ich mich v\u00f6llig falsch verHALTE, und das noch \u00fcber Generationen und als Gruppenklumpen. Voll klar!<\/p>\n

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DU KONNTEST, also du kannst es und dich jederzeit NUN AUS DEINEM ALLWAHREN, das mit allem wahr = gesund in Einklang webt, ziehen auch.<\/p>\n

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DU W\u00c4HLST JEDEN AUGENBLICK NEU, dein und DAS L\u00fcgen spannender, aufregender, kavaliersdeliktgeiler und so weiter zu finden…. your choice, now and now and until you leave the earth.<\/p>\n

DEIN WILLE!<\/p>\n

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Hab wenigstens so viel des guten Geschmacks, daf\u00fcr nicht mich oder andere verantwortlich zu machen. \u00a0Das isses, und mehr wird’s nicht. Du bist ein Esel nur, WEIL DU EIN ESEL sein willst. Das ist der PfAff, der sich damit dahintraglt, beleckt als Hochw\u00fcrden von hirnlos lebenwollenden Sia\u00df\u00dfschleckerln, na und so.<\/p>\n

do ut des<\/p>\n

mors tua vita mea<\/p>\n

der Herr ist der Feind meiner Feinde<\/p>\n

Heaa Dokta, gemmsma a P\u00fc\u00fcn<\/p>\n

Rechtsverkauf als STAATSJURISTEN – also Politikkontroller-K\u00dcR!<\/p>\n

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Na bitte… es ist euer Wille, auf diesem Niveau zu leben!<\/p>\n

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Andere machen klare, gute, herrlich erfreuende Sachen, ZEITGLEICH, in derselben Erde UND denselben St\u00e4dten sogar.<\/p>\n

Es m\u00f6gen die ETs grauslich sein… aber f\u00fcr mich sind Lichtwesen Trottel, wenn sie mit den regressiven Rassen einen Gegensatz \u00fcberheblich entstehen haben lassen, anstatt in ein gemeinsames Lernen und Gespr\u00e4ch L\u00c4NGST gefunden zu haben, da das Werdegewebe \u00dcBERALL Wesen auszubilden tendiert,<\/p>\n

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ICH ALSO MICH ZU FRAGEN HABE,<\/em><\/strong> warum sind die so? Welche AUSGLEICHENDEN 0der GUTEN! Gr\u00fcnde hat das, da\u00df im Allgesamtzusammenhang Wesen sich zu solchen zunehmend ausbilden?<\/p>\n

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NEIN, man ist Lichtwesen… und oaschalt genauso ooghooom in saine Schissln umadum.<\/p>\n

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Dann jupiter\u00e4greetma oder antarktisbeschlie\u00dftma wiiida amal DIE BL\u00d6DEN MENSCHEN…<\/p>\n

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Leute…. ihr spielts halt gern bleed,<\/p>\n

Andere interessieren Werte, welche Raum wahren und zeugen und bauen. IHR haust nur darin als eurem NuttenB&B. Und isses vollgeschissen, zieht ihr weiter, oder kriecht ins noch f\u00fchlmorschere Loch zur\u00fcck.<\/p>\n

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Menschsein ist werdend aus allem und nat\u00fcrlich: deine Wesensnatur reift in der sich dadurch auch wandelnden Raumnatur und so geht es jedem Wesen, auch den vielen nicht von dir erstierlbaren wie deinen Darmbakterien, um dich…<\/p>\n

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also versteife dich,<\/p>\n

verkrieche dich,<\/p>\n

pl\u00e4rre dich und<\/p>\n

b-Haupt.e dich… alles gut!<\/p>\n

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Aber Herz lebst du erst, wenn du Herzwert verbindlich leben willst.<\/p>\n

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so einfach<\/p>\n

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Und bis dahin bist du in einem herzigen bis verbissenen spiel- und wahllos bis willk\u00fcrlich Sammelalter einfach.<\/p>\n

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Bauende Geschlechtlichkeit<\/p>\n

verbindliches Menschsein, ansprechbares, edles herzwahres.. das also wahr auch nein<\/span> sagt, UND NEIN WAHR NIMMT<\/span>.. wahr geben ist so haarig wie wahr nehmen, wenn das Herz dabei straglt.. was passieren kann, denn das Herz ist so zirka das Ding mit den allermeisten Facetten, UND DU SEINE HAUT…<\/p>\n

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ja.. herzwerden ist noch fordernder als dasselbe ohne zu versuchen.. gebe ich zu, erlebe ich auch, wei\u00df ich!!<\/p>\n

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aber dasselbe ohne Herz<\/p>\n

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ergibt eine total vergiftete Erde, und uns als Wahnsinnige,<\/p>\n

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die von ihren Kindern gerettet<\/em> werden m\u00fcssen, die sie mi\u00dfbraucht und geschunden und verheizt und verkauft und getratscht auf tausend haben..<\/p>\n

f\u00fcr ihre Egoleins, diese \u00c4lterenbagage…die nicht und nicht sich selbst endlich lernen will, aus dem Leben, durch das Herz, also in Allraumwiederwuchs.<\/p>\n

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Man verkriecht sich wo, krallt sich da fest, rennt dann manchmal noch a wengerl davon, und legt sich zittrig die aufgebrochene Kette wieder um <<.<\/p>\n

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Das sind urlustige Theaterinszenierungen. Solangsda gfallt, hastas im Abonnement am preisg\u00fcnstigstn.<\/p>\n

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WENN DU F\u00dcHLUNERNST SEIN WILLST, sei’s.<\/p>\n

Es ist das nicht das Lustigere, sondern unsagbar trist.<\/p>\n

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Aber das wirst du erst merken wollen, bis du es so richtig ausgekostet hast!<\/p>\n

Daran ist gar nichts schlecht, mach weiter so. Irgendwann, wird dir, so bl\u00f6d dich aufzuf\u00fchren, zu bl\u00f6d sein. Dann k\u00f6nnma gerne reden, wenn ich grad \u00a0 Zeit habe, denn<\/p>\n

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auch ich habe Gespr\u00e4che laufen, auch ich lebe… da fehlt nichts. NUR DU NIMMST ES NICHT WAHR, du nimmst nichts f\u00fchlwahr. Du glaubst noch an faktenwahr als das Kluge. Das machen deine Katholikenmitmenschen genauso: FAKTEN AUS DER BIBEL, buntgolden…. ES IST EIN BREI DER HERZMEIDER.<\/p>\n

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es ist das…<\/p>\n

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ihr wollt ohne Raumauffaltung kn\u00f6deln, pappen, kleben schwappen wogen<\/p>\n

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also der andere WAHR, in seinem Werden, seinem Reifen, seinen Strukturen.. interessiert euch nicht.<\/p>\n

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Darum habt ihr auch keinen wahren „Gott“- ihr wollt alles Pampe. BEDIENT! Gott ein Machosackl, Poliker MenschenAnETverk\u00e4ufer… ihr findet VER8en eben noch interessanter als 8en, darum sind eure\/unsere M\u00e4chtigen so verachtend. DENN DAS IST euer Trip auch.<\/p>\n

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es ist DAS DENKENLERNEN!<\/p>\n

das F\u00fchl<\/strong><\/em>denken<\/span>, <\/span><\/p>\n

nicht Denken\u00a0<\/span>\/diese Kr\u00e4chzeunuchens\u00f6hnchens da und VfW\u00fchlen<\/span>: d\u00e4e Wajwa, da fhett\u00e4-n\u00e4dd\u00e4 Poistaaaa ahhh, s’Kombizangerl, wenn wir so recht geistreich h\u00f6henfliegen rocksch\u00f6\u00dfeichbumseprogescho\u00dfewollen, hm?\/\/<\/span><\/p>\n

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Das beginnt bei den Dumpfdackln damit, da\u00df sie ihr verwirrtes F\u00fchlen vermeiden, sich abschneiden.. so gut geht… UM ZU DEN<\/span>KgEN<\/span>, das Edlere! Dann hamma Mann und Weib, das Grade und das Aufblaahte, wenn de Oitte wida fett iis. Dazu pa\u00dft Christus mit seiner InMeineMamaspritztkeinPapanicht immaculata..<\/p>\n

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Ich meine: ihr wollt aus der Qual in die Qualit\u00e4t?<\/p>\n

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F\u00dcHKLDENKEN, Leute!<\/p>\n

lebenswahrbeweglich euch das Leben, vernunftvoll ja, aber nicht L\u00dc\u00dcGENVERN\u00dcNFTIG geben, und das auch bei anderen nicht mittragen…<\/p>\n

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Wahr an deinem Platz: ist Butter K\u00d6\u00d6\u00d6\u00d6\u00d6\u00d6\u00d6STLICH,<\/h1>\n

als Baustoff der Domapsis werde ich sie, da dich verspotten m\u00fcssen!<\/h1>\n

Wenn du Lieben willst und L\u00fcgen w\u00e4hlst… kann ich das nur dir belassen. Und entweder mitmachen, degradiert, oder mich verabschieden. Wertsch\u00e4tzend!!!!! Denn nur dein Denken ist kaputt, und damit dein F\u00fchlen. ANSONSTEN ABER bist du ein hervorragender Mensch und bezauberndes W-\u00c4sen. Aber das ist eben noch nicht dein Trip. Du reifst. Das ist ein Geheimnis zwischen Gott und dir und heilig!<\/p>\n

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und, wenn ich nun vor mich hinsinniere.. gilt das ja wohl auch f\u00fcr mich
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Achten ist eine Sache NIE Des Kopfes.<\/p>\n

Nur wenn der Kopf \u00dcBER EINEM HERZEN dient, kannst du wahr den anderen gewahren und wahrenwollen. Und da der andere ja auch Kr\u00e4fte hat und Sehen, gehen sich auch Zauberer und Hinfaller insgesamt aus, und man mag einander und liebt einander Schw\u00e4chen eigentlich.. als anr\u00fchrbares Herz.<\/p>\n

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Wir sind hier in einem ganz anderen inneren Land.<\/p>\n

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Ich wandere gerne frei…<\/p>\n

du wohnst gern Verkriechloch mit Gewusl.<\/p>\n

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Ich liebe dich und dich: dich unwahr und dich wahr und gro\u00df.<\/p>\n

und bei mir wei\u00df ich wohl um meine Kleinheit, um meine Gr\u00f6\u00dfe hingegen nicht..<\/span> und da werden wir einander wieder nah, vorausgesetzt, da\u00df Weite, die mir nat\u00fcrlich ist, als Gr\u00f6\u00dfeersatz gelten darf <\/span><\/em><: pro Weitel, gegen en<\/span>gEl<\/span>!!<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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nun, da ich es verstehe, hast damit nur mehr du das Problem, oder Antiplem, das inzwischen uninteressiert, du dir in unbesch\u00e4ftigten Momenten vielleicht daraus noch m\u00fcde machen willst.<\/p>\n

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In dir geht alles zuende,<\/p>\n

in mir wandelt sich alles und lebt.<\/p>\n

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du bist ein Labor,<\/p>\n

mein Herz ein Garten… in dem ich behutsam lebe, und in einem kleinen Teil nur f\u00fcr mich, der \u00fcberwiegende Teil geh\u00f6rt anderen und anderem Daringedeihenden nach seinem Gefallen.<\/p>\n

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Ich f\u00fchle mich wohl so,<\/p>\n

und du in deinem: du wei\u00dft alles, du bist vern\u00fcnftig, du bist klug, du bist unbestechlich und unbestochen.. komischerweise nur.. kennen ich Spatz und ich Gott keinen angeketteteren Adler.<\/p>\n

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Und Achtung gebietet mir, und meine ehrliche Verehrung und Liebe.. dir dich so zu glauben, wie du dich als lauter L\u00fcgen eben noch konglomerierst.<\/p>\n

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Genaugenommen rede ich mit zwei Menschen, mit dir wesenswahr und sch\u00f6n, und mit dir, wie du dich dir zurechbastelst.<\/p>\n

Es ist manchmal lustig, manchmal anstrengend.. aber ich habe meiner Herz daraus wieder herausgenommen. und nun ist es scheinbar schal auch noch. Da wir einander wirklich m\u00f6gen, tun wir uns einander als immer seltener an.<\/p>\n

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So entsteht Raum f\u00fcr Neues.. bei dir Wiederholungen deines Schemas, solange das jemand du-ldet.. bei mir.. ich wei\u00df es nicht. Und das ist bei mir gut so. Denn w\u00e4re ich nicht so weitschwingend… du h\u00e4ttest nicht kurz ehe wir in deinen Hades hinabstiegen, DEINE SCH\u00d6NHEIT erlebt.<\/p>\n

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Und das hast du.<\/p>\n

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Und meine ich, und daf\u00fcr Dank dir f\u00fcr immer. Du bist Gartengast geehrt!<\/p>\n

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Und weil ich ein echter Ritter bin,<\/p>\n

kann ich das auch einem Grey sagen… oder einem Volldreck: denn ich erlebe ihn ja wahr.<\/p>\n

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UND AB DA: hat jedes Wesen seine eigenen Lebensverwicklungen auch.<\/p>\n

Also man kann mit jedem Wesen auf der Schicksalsebene klar und wahr gemeinsam nachdenken und plaudern.<\/p>\n

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Was selbstverst\u00e4ndlich all diese Klug\u00fcbernat\u00fcrlichemenschenhinwegmontgolfieren<\/p>\n

noch einmal in ein noch vertrottelteres Licht klar stellt.<\/p>\n

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Aber was soll’s— die machen sich eben so an. Flietzeflietze in da Schissl. Lichtwesen! Therapeuten!!<\/p>\n

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eine einzige Bl\u00f6d wie Jesus Christus Pan<\/em>dahinganslsichwichserEI.<\/p>\n

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Die Frage ist somit:<\/p>\n

h\u00e4tten die diese verlogenen Paraleben nicht, h\u00e4tten sie dann GAR keines?<\/p>\n

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W\u00e4re, jene ihrer Illusion zu benehmen, die glatt umbringen, oder bliebe uns dann ein wunderbarer Mensch statt dessen \u00fcber: frei, frohgemut und eine Freude insgesamt, w\u00fcchsig und gesund: ????<\/p>\n

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Befreit man da ein herrliches R\u00fcckgrat vom Dreck, oder wischt man da eine Seifenblase mit ihrem Schillern ganz weg?<\/p>\n

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Meine Antwort ist einfach: wenn ich Dich liebte, ist da Herz da.<\/p>\n

Habe ich dich nur als „Das Leben“ geliebt, so ganz allgemein, wie eine H\u00e4userflucht, eine vertraute Zaunecke, balgende Welpen einer Z\u00fcchterin, mit der ich ein paar Worte gerne wechsle… dann w\u00e4re in mir keine Gegenkraft zu Gegenstehen erwacht, zu Mitstehen.<\/p>\n

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Wenn du aber in diesem Wald nicht mitwachsen willst, wer befehlte dich?<\/p>\n

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St\u00e4rke w\u00e4hlt man selbst.<\/p>\n

Schw\u00e4che kannst du l\u00fcgen.<\/p>\n

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<.<\/p>\n

ii nimma<\/p>\n

daf\u00fcr ist es zu sp\u00e4t<\/p>\n

so oder so, mich hat man \u00fcberzuckert.. wahr ist wahr. und wo ich nicht bin, bin ich wahr nicht. Alles darf sich bewegen, aber man reift entweder mitsammen, oder eine Weile aneinander, und dann trennt es sich.<\/p>\n

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und: auch das Erinnern beginnt auseinanderzuwuchern… daf\u00fcr nisten noch mehr Vogerln jetzt drinnen, und das ist auch gut.<\/p>\n

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summa summarum: wenn dir etwas nicht mehr bequem taugt, wirst du dich \u00e4ndern, und dann das.<\/p>\n

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und es wird mir anders sein AB DER SCHWELLE-GRENZLINIE IN DIR, die du selbst dir vorgibst und die du erleben willst.<\/p>\n

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Deinem freien = Mitsch\u00f6pferwillen neigt sich Erde und Weltall.<\/p>\n

\u00c4ndere dein L\u00fcgen, und keine L\u00fcgenregierung h\u00e4lt sich an dir und in deinem Land – deinem Rechtsempfinden – Deinem Heilwesen – deinem Famili\u00e4ren und und…. nicht einmal in der Geschichte und im Menschraumwissen, „Dem Menschenbild\/en“.<\/p>\n

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Ihr Gr\u00f6\u00dfenwahnsinnigen seid Schrott aus Pampe, P L U M B U M PUTRIDUM.<\/p>\n

Es brauchen lediglich die Menschen zu verstehen, da\u00df es wir die gesamte Zeit sind, die all dieses Luftballons, Abgehobenen und Montgolfieren erm\u00f6glichen. Es ist schlicht das.. so wie die G\u00f6tter, die sich hier die Frauen v\u00f6geln, und die sich nach ihnen sehnenden Bastardln „NICHT MITNEHMEN“, wohl aber als unsere G\u00f6tter weiter lauter Josephs wollen, die ihre Brut aufziehen… und sich die M\u00e4dels nehmen, mit dem gottvollen Bauch UND DANACH \u00dcberhauptnichtpassendkind.. unsere \u00fcber.unserem.Haupt-Chakren sind bekannt? So den String of Essences hinauf, ja? Sehr gut.<\/p>\n

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Wenn ihr Idioten, die euch belustigen, als euer Polittheater wollt, dann lebt ihr eben Posse selbst.<\/span> 1+1 macht viele Male 2<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

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das ergibt Folgendes, feinstofflich, was in diesem Fall rechnerisch bedeutet:<\/span> <\/span><\/p>\n

in dir verdickende Patzen an niederen Gef\u00fchlen, die du ihrem nat\u00fcrlichen Bewegtwerden entziehst – als Polsterung? – , welche IMMER W\u00e4lle sind, die du dann nicht wirst ablegen k\u00f6nnen, wenn du es m\u00f6chtest..<\/span> denn du bist gewandmorsch, seelmorsch.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Das ist zwar f\u00fcr dein g\u00f6ttliches Wesen, deinen Wesensraum kein Problem, denn der kann jedes Theater mitspielen, das du dir halt einbildest, der ist aus Allstoff.<\/span><\/p>\n

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ABER DU SELBST: hast eben dein Egolein. Und das ziehst du so an, da\u00df ihm warm ist. Und ist dem Egolein warm, will es es bunt, denn um sich tr\u00e4gt es ja den Farbtonsch\u00f6pferk\u00f6rper, und der will sich als See L’e… intensiv<\/strong>, egal wie.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Und wenn man formatlos ist, dann holt man sich diese Intensivierung, indem man sich dahin schmiert \/\/Gr\u00f6\u00dfe also nicht als Raum in sich w\u00e4chst, in den Raum hinein, sondern sich IN ALS GR\u00d6SZERE WAHRGENOMMENE hineinsteckt.. man wird vom Menschen zum Funktionsmenschen, was man durch immer tyrannischeres Zwingdenken dann „ausgleicht“ also den eigenen Sichselbstbel\u00fcgenWILLEspagat\/\/<\/span>, wo man m\u00f6glichst das gef\u00fcttert kriegt, was dem Egolein eben schmeckt, aus Gew\u00f6hnung, aus Marter, aus welchen Gr\u00fcnden – IMMER UNHINTERFRAGTEN<\/span> – auch immer.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Du hast mit dir selbst nie wahres Gespr\u00e4ch aufgenommen: kennst Gott in dir nicht, wei\u00dft um die Unendlichkeit des Raumes nicht, als der du dich wahr betreten kannst und sollst, ZU DEINEM Menschsein dazu, um die Erde wahr in deinem Wesen zu gastwohnen, schenkend edel dem Raum aus deinem Besten, was jenem angenehm sein kann.<\/p>\n

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_ Und rei\u00dft du’s durch, und fliegst wieder auch…<\/span><\/p>\n

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dann wirst du es nicht landen k\u00f6nnen, denn du kennst nur deine Egoleinflugschneise, und landest immer wieder in der Hexe Armen. Mitleid?<\/span><\/p>\n

Mitgef\u00fchl?<\/span><\/p>\n

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Wenn du darin erwachsen wirst und schlie\u00dflich alt: dann w\u00fcrde ich sagen: schlicht als deine Wahl, dein Wahlhimmel und Stil zu akzeptieren. Du f\u00fchlst dich so unwohl eben wohl. Das ist zu respektieren, wie ich respektieren mu\u00df, da\u00df ich leider zutiefst anders bin und es also nicht pa\u00dft. Frischfleisch f\u00fcr die uralte Dreckschmierdose, daf\u00fcr sind manche eben nicht geeignet.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Es geht wieder einmal um Raum.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Sich nur unter Wesen dahinschmieren… wie die Lichten gegen die Dunklen, womit die Lichten als krasse Idioten die Dunklen ANSTATT ZU VERSTEHEN und gemeinsam zu lernen auch, nur gegenpolarisieren, da sie nicht deren SINN IN DER SCH\u00d6PFUNG und die tieferen Gr\u00fcnde ihrer AnWesenHEiT hinterfragen je w\u00fcrden… da\u00df sie nicht FRAGEN, warum Raum sich in manchen Teilen mit SOLCHEN Wesen begabt!!!?<\/span><\/p>\n

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Nein, sie sind licht… = gut. Naja, depperter mit jemandem nicht reden k\u00f6nnen, geht ja wohl nicht.<\/span><\/p>\n

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also wenn ich nicht die Komplexit\u00e4t anderer Leben grunds\u00e4tzlich achte.. dann pick ich eben wo.<\/span><\/p>\n

So easy.<\/span><\/p>\n

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AN SICH h\u00e4lt das die kreisenden Kreise im Gleichgewicht gegeneinander.. und jedes rennt in sich geschmiert. Aber die Vorwitzigen gibt es immer: seien das Deppen, die da Daemonen beschw\u00f6ren, und dann von denen zunehmend \u00fcbernommen werden, in ihrer Minischlumpferlehybrishysterie.. lauter Manderln mit Uterussen, gell <<. UMS HIRN. aber gut..<\/span><\/p>\n

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Leute!<\/span><\/p>\n

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Im Dom lacht keiner dem Depperl am Ambo herzlich ins Gsicht, wenn es seinen Drohgott da verzapft.<\/span><\/p>\n

Die \u00c4rzte wollt ihr anschleichen als Gott in Wei\u00df..<\/span><\/p>\n

IHR WOLLT EINFACH SPASS HABEN, und habt eben Possenvorliebe.<\/span><\/p>\n

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ES WAR KLAR, da\u00df ein Kurz ein schlecht aufgeh\u00e4ngter Klon ist.<\/span><\/p>\n

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___________ UND SO WEITER: von jedem Wesen ist ersichtlich, bis wohin es sich einen Anschein gibt, dann kommt seine L\u00fcgenh\u00fclle an seine Grenzen.. daraus entflechten sich seine L\u00fcgenbande noch.. da kann man sich dann weitere L\u00fcgengefangene anschaun wie ein Hieronymus Bosch Gem\u00e4lde. Einfach das.<\/span><\/p>\n

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DA L\u00dcG ICH MICH „barmherzig“, komod, gf\u00fchrig raus, und da sag ich dann meine Herzenswahrheit…<\/span><\/p>\n

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DAS IST WIE DIE VERROTTELTE LTE SCHACHTL, die mit 70 im Interview von sich gibt, ab nun m\u00f6chte sie nur mehr Sex aus Liebe.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Und wieviele hast du bis jetzt ruiniert, du Sack?<\/span><\/p>\n

cagacazzi.. ist der it. Volksausdruck daf\u00fcr. Also.. die mein gesch\u00fctztes Ambiente mich eben lernen lie\u00df.. aber das ist ja so voll klar wie testa di cazzo.. beiden fehlt die Wahrnehmung, also das Herz f\u00fcr das andere Wesen, das nur als Funktion im eigenen Illusarium verwendet wird: als Dildo an allen Denkecken und Trauml\u00f6chern.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Das ist NICHT BEGEGNENDES VerHalten.<\/span><\/p>\n

Schlicht das.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Du hockst in deinem Egol\u00fcgenzimmerl l\u00fcgen,<\/span><\/p>\n

und was so vorbeitreibt, an Lebenstreibgut, stopfst du dir als Glasperlen dahin, wo in dir sich grad was auftut.<\/span><\/p>\n

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DAS IST MENSCH?<\/span><\/p>\n

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Neeed wirklich.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Und als Nachfolgegesellschaft vom im Krieg miesest ihr Blut vergossen Habenden einfach unaushaltbar.. ________also SOWAS VON MIES!<\/span><\/p>\n

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Ich kann schweigen, und noch besser: ich kann durch dich wie durch eine Landschaft gehen: und dann bist du wundersch\u00f6n!<\/span><\/p>\n

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Aber all der Dreck, mit dem du dich umpickst, der verbietet mir Ann\u00e4herung, denn dann bin ich in derselben Kloake schlicht Frischfleisch kurz. UND DANN Mitgier, mich irgendwo hinein kurz zu erleichtern, kurz zu baden, inetwas REinem, da\u00df daran vergeht.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Wahr wir?<\/span><\/p>\n

Wir hoffen auf unsere Kinder, obwohl wir sie „erzogen“ haben, mi\u00dfbraucht, gen\u00f6tigt, ausgen\u00fctzt, als Idiotchen herumgetratscht haben, UM UNS etwas Anschein zu geben.. vor Nullen wie uns selbst.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Nichts Echtes lassen wir gelten, ohne wie Hunderln an der Leine dranzupinkeln oder s’anzukacken.<\/span><\/p>\n

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___________________das ganze im gut geschnittenen Anzug.. will uns den Unterschied dann machen und die Gehobenheit. UND WEITER beeindrucken uns genau die gr\u00f6\u00dfenwahnsinnigsten Sichdahinschmierer, denn gro\u00dfe L\u00fcgende geben uns kleinen L\u00fcgnern GR\u00d6SZE!! Weil DAS, das verstehma!! Da simma dabei.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Ernst und Wertsch\u00e4tzung, das sind die anderen!<\/span><\/p>\n

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DAS erledigen die Deppertn,<\/span><\/p>\n

man selbst hat Wichtigkeiten zu jonglieren den ganzen Tag… ach, es ist ja so anstrengend!<\/span><\/p>\n

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Das glaube ich dir.. st\u00e4ndig nur das eigene Ego zu melken (und\/um die aller anderen zu ficken) ist sicherlich keine Kost, die klar und gesund bewahrt, wer so tut. MAN VERKEHRT OHNE NIVEAU. Es ist in anderen Worten das.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Du bist ein Ferrari und f\u00e4hrst dich mit einem Dreiradlerf\u00fchrerschein.<\/span><\/p>\n

In noch anderen Worten: du glaubst dich allen anderen, denen du v\u00f6llig wurscht bist, anstatt dich in dich selbst aufzumachen, und dich und die grenzenlose, unfa\u00dflich artikulierte Weite in dir zu entdecken, lieben, und auch zur Verf\u00fcgung stellen zu k\u00f6nnen, in darum sehr edlem Begegnen, reichem, befruchtenden, entz\u00fcckenden.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Aus meinem Lesek\u00e4stchen:<\/p>\n

In Conversation with David Icke <\/em><\/strong><\/span>
\nSedona, Arizona, February 2009<\/em><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Start of interview<\/strong><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Kerry Cassidy (KC):\u00a0 I’m Kerry Cassidy, and we\u2019re here with David Icke and Bill Ryan. And we’re going to be doing what we call a Futuretalk<\/em>. It\u2019s basically sort of a roundtable discussion in which we kind of bat around ideas. Certainly you\u2019re going to be the focal point, and we want to really hear from you on whatever subjects you get sparked by in the course of conversation.<\/span><\/p>\n

David Icke (DI):\u00a0 OK. No problem.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 And then we\u2019ll just kind of run with it and see how it goes.<\/p>\n

Bill Ryan (BR):\u00a0 Something that I would like to say is that I think we get more emails, and have done over the three years that we\u2019ve been going, asking us to interview you, and wondering if there\u2019s some weird reason why we haven\u2019t.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 And now we\u2019re both together. Here we are. It\u2019s all synchronistic in the end.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 In the end.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Absolutely. So we\u2019re here in Sedona, and you\u2019re here, and it was great that we were able to connect with you.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Great.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 So, where we want to go with this is, we have whistle blowers, and I\u2019m curious. Have you got your own sort of secret sources that have been giving you information through the years?<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 No. What happened to me is I had an extraordinary experience, or series of experiences, in the early 1990s. I was a television presenter and a national spokesman for the British Green Party.<\/p>\n

Suddenly I felt, over 1989, that there was a \u201cpresence\u201d in the room whenever I was alone, and it became more and more tangible as 1989 unfolded. It was bizarre, really, \u2019cause the Green Party in Britain had their biggest electoral year in 1989 out of European elections.<\/p>\n

And I was going through all this whenever I was in a room alone, like a hotel room or something. There was this presence, you know. Eventually it got so powerful towards the end of \u201989 that I was sitting on the side of a bed in a hotel called the Kensington Hilton in London, just down from the BBC headquarters…<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 I know it.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 …and I said to this apparently empty room: Look, if there\u2019s something there, would you please contact me, because you\u2019re driving me up the wall.<\/em><\/p>\n

About two weeks later, it must have been, I\u2019m with my son. He was a little boy then. He\u2019s a singer-songwriter now, in his mid-20s.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 He\u2019s six foot four.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yes. This is Gaz… Gareth. We were playing football, and we were going to go down into the town and get some lunch. I lived in a seaside resort in a place called the Isle of Wight in England. And as we got down toward this \u2018Greasy Joe\u2019 Cafe, somebody, some railway worker, stopped me and started talking about football because I was on the television talking about sport and stuff.<\/p>\n

Then after this conversation was finished, I saw that Gareth wasn\u2019t there. I knew where he would be. He would be in the news shop just down, next to us. So I walked in and he was reading steam train books, because he liked steam trains, like me. And I said to him: Come on, Gareth. We\u2019ll go and get some lunch.<\/em><\/p>\n

And as I turned, my feet wouldn\u2019t move. Now, this is a guy who\u2019s not been into any of this stuff. He\u2019s a television presenter, national spokesman for the Green Party, a journalist basically, and my feet wouldn\u2019t move.<\/p>\n

And I heard \u2013 it wasn\u2019t really a voice, but a very strong thought-form passed through my mind, which didn\u2019t seem attached to me. Why would I think it? And it said: Go and look at the books on the far side.<\/em><\/p>\n

So I went over, and in among the romantic novels was this book with a woman\u2019s face on the front. I picked it up \u2019cause it was so different to the rest, turned it over, saw the word psychic<\/em>.<\/p>\n

So I read this book in 24 hours and I wrote to her and went to see her. And what I told her was I had arthritis – which I have – and maybe a hands-on healing would help. I told her not the real reason I went, which was: Would she pick up what the heck this presence is I\u2019d been feeling for nearly a year?<\/em> Well, actually, a full year by then.<\/p>\n

I went the first couple of times \u2013 and I saw her four times — and she did the hands-on healing and we had a chat about other dimensions and stuff. It all made sense to me, because I\u2019d always rejected religion and I\u2019d always rejected the scientific view of reality. I just hadn\u2019t focused on: OK. What\u2019s the alternative?<\/em><\/p>\n

And then the third time I went, I\u2019m lying there on this medical-type bench thing, and I felt like a spider\u2019s web on my face, which really took me aback because I had read in her book that when other dimensions, or whatever, spirits or whatever you want to use, are trying to lock in to you, you sometimes feel like a spider\u2019s web on your face.<\/p>\n

Well, funny enough, I never had before and I never have since, but at that moment it was seriously powerful, real tangible. So I\u2019m going: Oh my goodness! What\u2019s going on? And she is kind of doing this by my left knee. <\/em>And I never said a word to her.<\/p>\n

And then suddenly she launches her head back and goes: My God! I\u2019ve got to close my eyes for this one. This is powerful.<\/em> And she sees this figure in her mind. She says: This figure<\/em> — or whatever she called it — is asking me to pass information to you<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Take into account, you know, I\u2019m a television presenter, presenting the sport and the news at the time.<\/p>\n

And suddenly she starts saying that this entity, or this projection of Consciousness, was saying that I was going to go out on a world stage eventually and reveal great secrets. That there was a shadow across the world that had to be lifted. That there was going to be a spiritual revolution in my lifetime because of a vibrational change.<\/p>\n

That\u2019s why the first book I wrote was called Truth Vibrations,<\/em> after that vibrational change. And one line was: One man cannot change the world, but one man can communicate the message that will change the world.<\/em> I would write five books in three years.<\/p>\n

I\u2019m sitting there thinking: I know nothing about this stuff. <\/em>[laughs] Five books in three years! You must be having a laugh!<\/em> You know. This was all new to me.<\/p>\n

I wrote five books in three years, to the month, and I didn\u2019t realize I\u2019d done it until I realized it was five and then went back. It was five books, to the month, in three years from that time.<\/p>\n

I went back another time, and the next time there was some more. So I left and waited.
\nSomething felt right about it, even though my mind\u2019s going: What? What?<\/em><\/p>\n

Within weeks the BBC had decided they weren\u2019t going to renew my contact, even though I was the youngest one in their department. I was an in-by-a-mile presenter, and it would seem that I would have had a lifetime, a working-lifetime future there.<\/p>\n

When I look back at that thought, my emotional chakra, you know, starts vibrating wildly. The thought of being in the media all my life! Oh, my God! When I look back… nightmare.<\/p>\n

Anyway, so now I\u2019m out of work, but I feel I have to go with this. And fortunately I\u2019ve always lived below my income because I have a very… You know, I\u2019m minimalist me. I\u2019d rather have the money to go to India than a big house with a mortgage on it.<\/p>\n

Anyway. So I had enough money to keep me going for a year. And then it all started, this synchronistic, almost-daily… ah… this daily journey through a maze. And when I started out, it was a thick maze. I had no idea what this was all about. I just felt I had to go with it. I didn\u2019t even know why I had to go with it. I just had this… Gotta go with this.<\/em><\/p>\n

And what\u2019s happened is, it\u2019s like some force has been opening and closing doors, so I go down this<\/em> road in a maze and not this<\/em> one.<\/p>\n

And so, coming around to answering your question directly, I just follow, and have followed now for nearly 20 years, this pulsing, this urging, this knowing that passes through me. So I edit my life on the basis of that: Will you go here?<\/em> Don\u2019t feel to. Will you go here? Yeah. I\u2019ll be there.<\/em><\/p>\n

And what has happened as the result of just doing that is I\u2019ve walked into people, experiences, information, books, documents, which has taken me, when I look back, on a very specific journey. I\u2019ve described it before. It\u2019s like you try to put a jigsaw puzzle together, and some force is handing you the pieces…<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 We feel the exact same way.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 We\u2019ve had the same experience.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 …almost in the right order that you can encompass them in the picture most easily.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Mm hm.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 And so, first of all, in the early years of the \u201990s and through to about 1996, all the synchronicity was about the five-sense level of this conspiracy — banking scams, families connecting, the same people behind this, and behind that, and behind that; who\u2019s behind the drug networks, and all that stuff.<\/p>\n

Banking families and engineered wars. What was really behind the Second World War, the First World War? And what\u2019s this network that is the guiding force of this conspiracy? All that stuff.<\/p>\n

And then from about \u201996, when I came to America to talk about this for the first time… And lots of people turned up. I talked to eight people in Chicago, I remember that. That was what you might call an expeditionary three months, because I was talking to myself most of the time. But I was picking up information as I passed around.<\/p>\n

What started then, from 1996 onwards, was the next stage of this, which is these families, which I\u2019d learned so much about in the years before, were actually connected to some non-human race, or entities, for which they were basically fronting-up an agenda within this five-sense reality. That\u2019s when I went into the whole reptilian stuff.<\/p>\n

Of course, the synchronicity of my life, and my personal journey, and my communication of information are fundamentally connected, because a massive part of my life is, as I\u2019ve been learning more and more, you know, my personal journey has been clearing out my own body computer programming so that I can access higher and higher levels of Consciousness. Of course everyone\u2019s got the opportunity to do that and many people are doing it now.<\/p>\n

So I\u2019ve had great challenges in my life at the same time as doing the information to break this up \u2013 break these programs up. One of the biggest ones happened in 1991 when I started talking about what was happening to me.<\/p>\n

Of course, I was a well-known television presenter in Britain, so there was monumental ridicule, of a kind that few people can actually experience. I mean, I would walk down the street and be laughed at by most of the people in the street for like two, three years. A comedian only had to say my name, no joke necessary, and get a laugh.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 [laughs] But can we go back to that? Because I would love to sort of drill down and find out what… How did you actually get into the reptilian situation?<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Well, yeah, what I was just going to say… The reason I bring this up about the synchronicity of my life is because from 1996, when I started going through the reptilian stuff, because I\u2019d been through that massive ridicule in the early 1990s, it had cleared me out of the key thing that most people live in – the prison that most people live in – which is the fear of what other people think. Therefore, to me, coming out from the late \u201990s about the reptilian stuff was not a problem because the level of ridicule could not be greater than what is before.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 But why did you have ridicule before? Because the only ridicule I knew was about the reptilians.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Oh, no! I will tell you another story that leads into that. Towards the end of 1990, when I had finished the book, Truth Vibrations,<\/em> and it went off to the publisher to be published in the spring of 1991, I had this overwhelming feeling – again, the urge, the impulse – to go to Peru. And I had no idea why. I just had to go to Peru.<\/p>\n

So I get on a plane to Peru, not knowing why I\u2019m going there, and I land in Lima airport. From the moment I landed amazing synchronistic things happened. But eventually I had this Peruvian guide chap who was taking me around.<\/p>\n

Funnily enough, the first time I met that guy was in Cuzco, in the old Inca region. And I went \u2019round to his house, because we were going off traveling around Peru from that day, and he\u2019s lying on his back asleep. And I walked in because the door was open, and he looked up at me and he said, not: Hello<\/em>, but: Did you have any dreams last night?<\/em><\/p>\n

What? I said: Well, actually I did. <\/em>I said: I had a real big clear Technicolor dream that one of these two front teeth fell out.<\/em> Can\u2019t remember which one.<\/p>\n

And he said: Is your father or grandfather still alive?<\/em><\/p>\n

I said: Well, my father is. Yeah.<\/em> I said: Why?<\/em><\/p>\n

He said: Well, that\u2019s usually symbolic of your father or your grandfather dying.<\/em><\/p>\n

I thought: Well this guy\u2019s gonna be a bunch of laughs for the next three weeks.<\/em><\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 [laughs] Wow!<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 And when I next got a call out of Peru, my father had died back in England. It was unbelievable.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Oh my God.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Anyway, I go around with this guy and where it all leads, which kind of… Fundamentally it leads to the reason behind the ridicule.<\/p>\n

Eventually he put us in a hotel called the Sillustani in Puno. It\u2019s kind of southern Peru, not far from Lake Titicaca. The Sillustani Hotel was named after an Inca ruin site about an hour, hour-and-a-half\u2019s drive away. So there\u2019s pictures of this place all over the hotel, of the ruins. And I said to the guy: I want to go there.<\/em><\/p>\n

So we go out. I think he did a deal to get some money out of me because I go out in like a little tourist bus with windows on the side, with a tourist bus driver, and the guide and me. Nobody else. [Bill laughs]<\/p>\n

We go out to this place, and it\u2019s in the middle of nowhere. Basically when you looked around, it was encircled by mountains – in the distance, mind. And I go there. The only people there are a couple of children with llamas for tourist photographs, but there were no tourists.<\/p>\n

So I walk around for about an hour, and it\u2019s very nice. It\u2019s on a hill with a lagoon on three sides. I go back to the car. And I\u2019m… it was nice, but it didn\u2019t match the urge I had to go there.<\/p>\n

So I get into the van thing and we start to drive away. And I\u2019m looking out the window, day-dreaming, and I see this mound to my right. It must have been no more than three minutes down the road. And as I look at the mound, all I can hear in my head is: Come to me. Come to me. Come to me. Come to me.<\/em> What? I\u2019m really new to this stuff. I mean: What\u2019s going on with my life?<\/em><\/p>\n

So I said to the guide: Can you stop the van?<\/em> – the bus thing. I\u2019m going up the mound.<\/em> So I went up the mound. I couldn\u2019t see it from the road, but when I got to the top, there was a circle of standing stones about waist-high. These stones had obviously been there a very, very long time.<\/p>\n

So I walk into the middle of this circle, and I\u2019m looking across to Sillustani, and across to the distant mountains, and it\u2019s a piercing-hot Peruvian day. No clouds, not a cloud in the sky. Very much like this one today.<\/p>\n

I walked to the center of the circle, and suddenly my feet go again, like they did in the news shop, but only seriously more powerful. There\u2019re like magnets pulling my feet to the ground. And I think: Oh crikey. I recognize that. Here we go<\/em>.<\/p>\n

And then I felt like a drill going in the top of my head and through my body, through my feet, into the ground. And then another one coming the other way.<\/p>\n

And then my arms go out at 45 degrees like that. I never made any decision to do it. And of course, you hold your arms out there for a minute, it starts to ache, or my shoulders do anyway. It was the best part of an hour… it must be 45 minutes to an hour my arms were like that. When it was over, my shoulders were agony, but when it was going on, nothing.<\/p>\n

What then started to happen is this energy coming through me. This is February 1991. It got more and more powerful. My body started to shake with it, and I had two very powerful thought-forms pass through my head, just like in the news shop.<\/p>\n

The first one said: They\u2019ll be talking about this 100 years from now.<\/em> And I\u2019m thinking: Talking about what?<\/em><\/p>\n

And the other one was: It will be over when you feel the rain.<\/em> I\u2019ve just described what the weather was like. \u201cIt will be over when you feel the rain\u201d? I mean, you\u2019re having a laugh, mate.<\/em><\/p>\n

So what happened then, for the next 45 minutes — because time disappeared; there was no time; I worked it out later \u2013 was that this energy just kept coming through me. And I kept going in and out of, if you like, awareness, consciousness, like driving a car and you go: Crikey. Where did the last two miles go?<\/em><\/p>\n

One of these times when I came back to kind of awareness, I noticed that over the distant mountains there was a light gray mist. And kind of as I watched it, it got darker and darker very quickly, and I realized it was pouring rain on the distant mountains.<\/p>\n

Over the next little while, however long it was, I watched this storm come out of the mountains. Weather people talk about, you know, a \u201cweather front\u201d. Well, this was a straight line. The cloud was a straight line. I\u2019ve described it many times. It was like drawing the curtains across the sky.<\/p>\n

This thing\u2019s coming towards me, and as it got closer, the sun\u2019s gone. It\u2019s been covered. All the clouds are billowing and I\u2019m seeing faces in the clouds. It didn\u2019t make sense to me, but I saw faces in the clouds.<\/p>\n

And then it\u2019s a wall of rain. I\u2019m watching it coming towards me. By this time I\u2019m hanging on, you know, with this energy coming through me. Eventually it hits me – torrential rain – and everything stopped. That\u2019s when I staggered forward and my shoulders were agony and all the rest of it.<\/p>\n

Many other things happened, but when I came back to England after that… As I said earlier, my book was published in the early part of 1991, which is a matter of a very short time after this experience.<\/p>\n

When I look back now, it was like… You know, if you\u2019ve got a dam and it\u2019s holding water back, the water is calm – right? – because that\u2019s its natural state in that situation, if you like. But when the dam bursts, before a new balance is found after the damn bursts, all hell breaks loose in the water – right? – as it\u2019s trying to go from one state to another.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Yep.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 When I look back, what happened to me on that mound, it was like the waters of my mind bursting, and for three months I didn\u2019t know what planet I was on. Right?<\/p>\n

In the middle of this, my book came out, and I went on the biggest live-chat show in Britain at the time — it was called the Wogan<\/em> Show — in a complete bloody daze about what was happening to me. It had all been in the national papers that basically I had gone crazy.<\/p>\n

And I was sitting in this chair in the chat show and the audience was laughing within a minute, two minutes. And they basically laughed for… I think I must have been on about fifteen, sixteen, seventeen minutes, and from that moment on, because I was talking about what was happening to me, except I didn\u2019t understand what was happening to me, and what that did was trigger the most extraordinary levels of ridicule. And… ah… it cleared me out of that fear of what other people think.<\/p>\n

But I learned so much about human behavior, I remember, because what you\u2019re supposed to do when you face that scale of ridicule is run and hide. Right?<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 That is one of the means that\u2019s used to control us.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yeah. So what I did is, I went on a university speaking tour [Kerry laughs] in front of all these students who had not come to listen. They\u2019d come to laugh. Right?<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 My understanding is that what you had is a kundalini experience. Do you relate to it like that or do you call it something else?<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 I don\u2019t care.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 But have you investigated or has anyone talked to you about that?<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 No. No. I mean, I\u2019ve talked to people about kundalini experience, and maybe it was. See, what I do — I can only talk for myself \u2013 is: What is, is.<\/em> You know?<\/p>\n

One of the things that was said to me by the psychic, or through the psychic in 1990 when all this started for me was, they\u2019re saying: You will face enormous opposition but they will always be there to protect you. <\/em><\/p>\n

Now, I don\u2019t know who they<\/em> are. I\u2019ve hardly even thought about who they<\/em> are, because when I leave this genetic spacesuit, I will know who they are. All I do is I go with my intuition.<\/p>\n

And what happened to me in 1991, with the great ridicule, was, as life so often does, it gave me my greatest gift brilliantly disguised as my worst nightmare, because that\u2019s what it was at the time and in the experiencing of it.<\/p>\n

So what actually happened to me is, something transformed my sense of perception and that\u2019s good enough for me. I don\u2019t really have to know the detail of what happened. But a kundalini experience? It could well have been. Yeah.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 And in the meantime it\u2019s got something to do with tempering the steel.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Say again?<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Tempering the steel.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Tempering the steel… Yeah. Because as I keep coming back to… my personal journey and what I\u2019m doing in terms of communicating information absolutely are One.<\/p>\n

I was going to say what happened to me when I went out on that university speaking tour. It was the University of Nottingham. There were a thousand people there. I would say 950 had come to laugh. I walked out on the stage, and it was literally the best part of fifteen minutes before I could speak, because it was just abuse, ridicule, laughter, plastic beer glasses thrown at the stage.<\/p>\n

I just stood there and waited for it to die down, because it had to eventually, and when it did, I said: You think I\u2019m mentally ill, don\u2019t you?<\/em> And you know what it\u2019s like: [imitates raucous audience response] Wellll yuuh…<\/em> [and other rude vocalizations].<\/p>\n

And I said: So what does that say about you? Because you\u2019ve actually paid to come here to ridicule someone you actually believe is mentally ill.<\/em> [Kerry laughs] I tell you what, you could hear a pin drop. And you could hear a pin drop for the rest of the night.<\/p>\n

To do what I\u2019ve done in terms of talking about some really bizarre things, you know, my name still only has to be mentioned in a national newspaper in Britain and it\u2019s like complete ridicule, whatever I\u2019m saying.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 It\u2019s toned down a bit.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 A little bit, but not very much. I mean, I stood for election in a parliamentary bi-election in July last year, July 2008 — not to get elected — I knew I wouldn\u2019t get any votes; I didn\u2019t want any votes. I mean, I must be the first parliamentary candidate ever to put out a leaflet to everyone in the constituency saying: I don\u2019t want your votes, just your brief attention.<\/em>Goodness me, I didn\u2019t want to get involved in that! But, again, it was a great experience and I learned a lot from it.<\/p>\n

But the media coverage was… I did a media presentation for the national press which was about, I don\u2019t know, 50 minutes, PowerPoint pictures and stuff, in which I talked about the five-sense level of it. Because anything else, I mean, even that blew their bloody minds. Anything else, reptilians… I mean, crikey.<\/p>\n

What they did is they just went away and just abused me, and abused it, and ridiculed me. And ironically, the one that did the most abuse… One of the things I said was coming, actually about six weeks later, was actually the front page story in his own newspaper. I mean, it\u2019s bizarre. These people have total cognitive dissonance so that they can\u2019t put these two things together.<\/p>\n

So it\u2019s still there, but it doesn\u2019t matter, you know. We\u2019re in a situation where, thanks to the Internet, we can bypass these sad people that work with their concrete minds in the mainstream media.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 And you don\u2019t have to reach everybody, just enough people. It\u2019s The<\/em> Hundredth Monkey<\/em>principle.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yeah. I\u2019ll tell you what I feel more and more, you know. I mean… Look, I can feel it when I speak, anyone speaks. It\u2019s a vibrational communication. There\u2019s silence between you and me. There\u2019s silence when you speak to me until my brain\u2019s decoded it.<\/p>\n

What it is, is vibrational communication. And I feel very strongly that it\u2019s not just the people that hear this information, it\u2019s the fact that this information\u2019s circulating.<\/p>\n

If you do an interview for a radio station, 100,000 people might listen to it. But that broadcast frequency carrying that information is passing through the ether, if you like, and is there to be potentially picked up by people who don\u2019t even listen to the radio interview. It touches them on a vibrational level, and, you know…<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 I think that\u2019s right. You\u2019re talking about The Butterfly Effect,<\/em> in essence.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yeah, it…<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 It multiples. That\u2019s actually a very good way to put it. You know, on a subliminal level… because we exist on so many different levels.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Mm hm. Exactly.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 It\u2019s like waves. It\u2019s actually… it\u2019s hitting them. And there\u2019s the line that I\u2019ve been quoting lately that says, you know: We learn by osmosis just as much as by word<\/em>. It actually permeates just by osmosis.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yes.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Into our skin. Into our brain.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Exactly.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 We\u2019re receivers.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Exactly. We\u2019re receiver \/ transmitters. That\u2019s what we are. But people think that the only form of communication is voice-to-ear.<\/p>\n

I\u2019ll tell you a funny story. In 2003 I was in the rain forest of Brazil and I took this ayahuasca<\/em>psychoactive drug. Somebody didn\u2019t tell me I was taking a psychoactive drug, but I\u2019m glad I did, though. It was fantastic. A lot of people have bad experience, but…<\/p>\n

This female voice talked to me as loud as mine is now for five hours about how reality, physical reality, is an illusion. Absolutely riveting stuff. Very, very funny. I mean, my feet were the air a couple of times, it was so funny what was coming out.<\/p>\n

And as the voice was telling me things, I saw pictures that obviously were being projected. There was one where I walked out on a stage and there was an audience. I just saw the front of the audience here and this voice said: You only speak words to keep the mind happy, basically to keep the brain happy.<\/em><\/p>\n

And as this voice was saying this, I saw two women in the front row of this scene that had been projected to me, and I\u2019d walked out to the front of the stage and I\u2019d just stood there, and just said nothing \u2013 Silence. And after a while this one woman nudges the other one like that and goes, basically: What\u2019s he doing?<\/em><\/p>\n

And the voice… it was so funny what it said because it came out of nowhere. The voice said; You only speak because if you did not, the audience would be asking when the f??? is he going to start?<\/em> [laughs]<\/p>\n

That actually carries a profound kind of understanding, because the real communication between all of us is unspoken.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Absolutely.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 And this is very good news. And this is what I would impress upon people. The more you speak your truth – even if people are not listening – you\u2019re changing, or offering, a vibrational field which other people can tune into.<\/p>\n

You know, when I look at the speed at which people are awakening, it\u2019s not just because of information on the Internet. It\u2019s not just because of information in my books or someone else\u2019s books.<\/p>\n

There is something massive going on, vibrationally, which fits totally with what I got through that psychic in 1990, which was: There is a spiritual revolution coming and it\u2019s taking the form of a vibrational change.<\/em><\/p>\n

I can see it. In 1990 – no evidence. Now? I mean, please. You can see it. I had people come up to me in LA when I spoke there recently, saying: I was absolutely a part of the system until three months ago.<\/em><\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Right.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 I read one of your books and suddenly I\u2019m just totally different.<\/em><\/p>\n

Now, it\u2019s not just<\/em> because they read one of my books. If you start tuning in to this vibrational change, then bang! Things can happen real, real quick. And, personally, I find it such a good thing that, from my experience, I went through all that… that nightmare experience in the early 1990s when I started to awake, not knowing what the hell was happening.<\/p>\n

Because now you can explain to people that if you have an energetic construct here – which was you believing everything was real, and the system was serving you, and this is the cutting edge of human evolution, and all this nonsense – that vibrational field is vibrating your state of being out[ward], and it will draw to you people, places, ways of life, experiences, etcetera, locations, which fit your inner self because the outer self is a projection of the inner self.<\/p>\n

So when you start to transform — this is what happened to me, but I mean it happens to everybody — to another state of being which then draws to you a very different group of people, places, locations, ways of life, etcetera, there is a transition between the two. It doesn\u2019t go: One gone! \u2019Ere you go!<\/em> [Kerry laughs]<\/p>\n

This one<\/em> has to break down as this one<\/em> emerges. It\u2019s a process of one losing power over your reality, another one gaining power. It can happen very quickly, but it\u2019s not like instant.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 That\u2019s actually a very great metaphor for what\u2019s going on in the macrocosm of the planet.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Exactly!<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 And in the United States in particular, but certainly England. You know, all over. We can see it here. I mean, what\u2019s happening here with the economic downturn and with people losing their houses, their shells, if you will. It changes their lives.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 I couldn\u2019t agree more.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 And the more you resist, I think, the more destruction is going to happen. The less you resist, the quicker the destructive phase is over and you can actually start climbing back up.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Exactly.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 In your case, you were quite extraordinary in the sense that you had this radical change in your life. You went, you know, from black to white almost. There was almost no downtime for you, it sounds like, although you said for three months…<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Three months was the big downtime.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 But that\u2019s extraordinarily quick, especially in the \u201990s. Today, I think this is happening to people and they are going through a quicker transition. And in some ways there\u2019s also a reason for that, because you and people like you have made it easier for those that are following now to go through the changes.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 I hope so.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Breaking through a veil.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 I hope so. I mean, I get such satisfaction when people say that they were helped in understanding what was going on. And you\u2019re absolutely right. I mean, I talk about this a lot now because between that – the old self and all that it projects in what we call the physical experience, and the new self which projects something else – there is apparent chaos.<\/p>\n

Relationships breakdown, you lose your job, you can lose your house, and all this stuff, and if you live that as a physical, I-am-a-human-body experience, then it\u2019s very, very challenging.<\/p>\n

If you say: Look, this is where I want to go,<\/em> and you realize that this is the transition to get there, then you can encompass the unpleasant experiences as just that – an experience – which you\u2019re going through to get to somewhere. And quite right. The collective…<\/p>\n

There\u2019s so many levels to this, you know. People say to me sometimes: Tell me what\u2019s going on.<\/em> I say: Well, first of all, I\u2019m not the guru, but if you want to know what I think is going on, my question is: What level of what\u2019s going on do you want to talk about?<\/em> Because there\u2019s so many ways to observe the same thing.<\/p>\n

So on one level, these Illuminati bloodlines have crashed the global economic system because they want to have that as a problem to which they can offer a solution, which is a fiercely Orwellian, Fascist, centralized economic system.<\/p>\n

But on another level, I would suggest, well beyond their level of comprehension – because they\u2019re stuck in their own box, otherwise they wouldn\u2019t be doing what they\u2019re doing – we are witnessing the transition from the Prison Society to the Paradise Society, if you like, or the Freedom Society.<\/p>\n

And to go from the system we\u2019ve had, which is based on control and imposition, to the system that we\u2019re heading towards – which is what vibrational change is all about – this<\/em> has gotta go and it\u2019s now going.<\/p>\n

KC; Right.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 If people… And it\u2019s easy to say this. It\u2019s easy to say these apparently trite things when, you know, you got a knock on your door saying you\u2019re leaving your house today. But if we can hold this level of seeing it, it makes it easier.<\/p>\n

We\u2019re going through this process where it\u2019s all breaking down. And if we can encompass it as what it is, which is a collective experience to get to where we\u2019d like to go — a world of freedom, a world of kindness, a world of love, a world of freedom to express your uniqueness rather than be imprisoned in your tiny version and false identity of what you are told you are — then it\u2019s much easier than if you seek to cling to the wreckage of the dying system and hold it together.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Right. In some ways, you were something of a pioneer, where you had to go it alone.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 I imagine you must have much more support now from everywhere, just in the way that Kerry is describing, than you did when you really felt you were alone going down the rapids.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yes. It\u2019s funny, though, because… I mean there are so many things I\u2019d like to talk about that you just brought up, because I think it\u2019s very, very important.<\/p>\n

I wouldn\u2019t say I\u2019m a loner, but my connection has always been to that which is driving me and opening doors and pushing me in this direction, and I just follow that. So, although I was alone in so many ways when it all happened, I still had that connection. And I still have that connection now.<\/p>\n

And people are very kind and very supportive, but I still basically just operate in my own little bubble and just go my own way. I don\u2019t deal with organizations. I don\u2019t connect with other researchers or anything like that. I just follow this impulse. But it is easier because there\u2019s more people that are open to what you\u2019re saying. But, you know, what you\u2019ve just brought up is very, very important and…<\/p>\n

You know, for me, if not the greatest human disease of all because everything comes out of it, I guess, is insecurity. Ironically it was at the height of mass national ridicule that I found my security. Because there\u2019s that line in that song, I think it was in the \u201960s: Freedom\u2019s just another word for nothing left to lose<\/em>.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Absolutely.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 And you have to look inside for your security. You\u2019re not going to get it from anywhere else outside.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yeah. I mean, you look at my situation in regard to that line from that song in the early \u201990s, early-mid-\u201990s, I was being ridiculed by a nation, so I had nothing left to lose. And that\u2019s when I found freedom, the freedom to break out of the prisons of fearing what other people think. And basically I was: Laugh! Laugh, but this is me.<\/em><\/p>\n

You know, I saw a great car sticker.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 I am me, and I am free.<\/em><\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 I saw a great car sticker in California – it would be California – and it said: You laugh at me because I\u2019m different. I laugh at you because you\u2019re all the same.<\/em> [Kerry laughs]<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t laugh at people because they\u2019re all the same, but it is ironic when this herd mentality is kind of focusing on one person, as it was in Britain at that time. And you look at them and you think: You\u2019re laughing at me? My God! <\/em>[laughs]<\/p>\n

And so, this economic thing that\u2019s going… and, you know, I\u2019ve been describing it recently as like a controlled demolition of a building. You see the charges go off, and then there\u2019s a bizarre split-second before the building goes, and then it collapses. Well, in the economic terms of this crash, we are in that bizarre split-second now.<\/p>\n

We\u2019ve seen nothing yet. I mean, this is a crash that no one alive today will have seen. It could be compared with the 1930s, but because of the way the world is, and there\u2019s more people, and the nature of home ownership and all the rest of it, I think it\u2019s going to be bigger.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 So people with gardens and independent means of doing anything at all will be much more interconnected.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 That\u2019s the idea. You\u2019re absolutely right. Absolutely. And so we now face this very situation you\u2019re talking about, where we need to reevaluate our… and it would have been a good idea to do it anyway…<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Yes. [laughs]<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 …our symbols of success.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Right.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Now, because insecurity is rampant in people and society, both individually and collectively, and on the level of governments and media and all the rest of it, are constantly getting people to feel insecure, most people do not get their sense of who they are from in-here. They get it from what they think is out-there. See? It\u2019s in their heads.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Absolutely.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Therefore, if you are going to attract to you the recognition you want that you\u2019re an OK person, to feed your insecurity, you have to succeed out-there on the basis of the symbols of success that out-there recognizes as success. And of course through the media and indoctrination from cradle to grave, it\u2019s more money, bigger house, bigger car, fame, all this stuff, titles, and all this business.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 He who dies with the most toys wins.<\/em><\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yeah. So what you\u2019ve got is, the insecurity itself is – to kind of feed some acknowledgment to lessen its insecurity – it\u2019s chasing these symbols of success that society has decided is successful.<\/p>\n

And we forget other symbols of success: Am I happy? Am I fulfilled?<\/em> You know. Do I live in a society, a kind, loving society that I\u2019d like to live in?<\/em><\/p>\n

All this goes by the board because the other thing about needing to succeed on this manufactured basis, to feed this, is that you then have to compete with all the other people that are trying to succeed in the same way to feed their<\/em> insecurity.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Right.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 And that creates this \u201cDog eat dog \/ Top of the greasy pole\u201d society, where everyone\u2019s walking over everyone else — not everyone, but vast numbers of people are walking over everyone else so that they\u2019re the ones on the top of the pile that get their insecurity fed most profoundly with the symbols of success.<\/p>\n

This insecurity is why you find some of the most insecure people you\u2019ll ever meet in places like Hollywood and in the entertainment industry because their insecurity is such… And they\u2019re not all like this. There are very secure people who just play music and like to act, but there\u2019s a lot of insecure people because they need that extra adulation to feed their insecurity.<\/p>\n

And so, if we can move our point of observation from I am this body that I see in the mirror in the morning. I am David Icke. I am Charlie Smith, Ethel Jones, whatever<\/em>, to I am Consciousness having an experience<\/em>, then your values of what is successful change because your point of observation of everything changes.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s the mind<\/em> working through the body that deals in status and symbols of success that are How high is your pile of trinkets?<\/em> Whereas, Consciousness doesn\u2019t deal in trinkets. It knows they\u2019re illusory. And, of course, when you deal in trinkets like that, it\u2019s the trinkets controlling you; you\u2019re not controlling the trinkets. [laughs]<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Of course.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 And so, for me, the whole foundation, both of coming through this crash to something much better as the result of it, and the whole transformation in general, is moving out of Mind and into what I call Consciousness, which is that beyond this virtual reality game, beyond this biological computer we call the body.<\/p>\n

And you can start to see the difference because Mind deals in structure. It deals in hierarchy, and it deals in apartness. It sees everything as apart.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 And polarization.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yeah. And if that\u2019s what you are, if that\u2019s the way you\u2019re seeing life, in terms of hierarchal structures, apartness, and competition, and all this stuff, you\u2019re in Mind<\/em>. Ironically, the religions are in Mind. They\u2019re all Mind constructs, the religions. That\u2019s why they have rules and regulations.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Of course.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 That\u2019s another massive red light. Hey! Mind!<\/em> And that\u2019s rules and regulation and laws.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 And limitations.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Limitation, a sense of limitation. So, if we can change our point of observation so we cease to see ourselves vitally and the world we think we\u2019re living in, in those terms, and look at it from a point of view of Consciousness…<\/p>\n

I said earlier that this force that\u2019s been kind of pushing me through my last 20 years took me through synchronistic experiences to understand the five-sense level of the conspiracy, then moved into the interdimensional connection and the reptilian connection to these families.<\/p>\n

And since 2003 it\u2019s taken me into what I know is by far the most important and that is understanding the nature of reality. Because, you know, how can you get a grasp of your own life and take any kind of control of your own experience, if you don\u2019t know who you are, where you are, or the nature of the world you\u2019re living in?<\/p>\n

This information, for me, is by far the most important because it moves the point of experience from in-this-world to observing-this-world, or a mixture of the two, and that…<\/p>\n

If you\u2019re in-this-world and you\u2019re of-this-world, then what\u2019s coming is going to be a bloody nightmare. If you become the observer as well as the experiencer by becoming more conscious, then it\u2019s much easier. Because that\u2019s not you, that\u2019s your experience which you are observing and…<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Absolutely. This is something that… George Green says that he was in contact with the Plejarans and that they helped write a book through him that says that exact thing, that you need to stay in the \u201cobserver mode\u201d.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Exactly.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 And observe what\u2019s going on and not get caught up in the experience in such a way that actually, as you said, you become of-this-world instead of in-it-but-not-of-it.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yeah. And what I\u2019ve found, as I\u2019m talking more and more about the reality we live in, is it does, if you like, take the edge off the fear of what\u2019s happening.<\/p>\n

Because it is funny, really. I think that when we find out everything that\u2019s going on and the nature of what we\u2019re experiencing and what\u2019s behind it, I think we\u2019re going to laugh for weeks. I do. I think we\u2019re going to laugh for weeks. And we thought it was THAT? Oh, my God.<\/em><\/p>\n

The whole thrust of the maze and opening and closing doors since 2003, for me, and it\u2019s getting more and more deep, and deeper and deeper, is: What is reality? Who are we, what we\u2019re doing here? And how do we interact with it? <\/em><\/p>\n

And it\u2019s very clear to me that this is a virtual reality universe of enormous advancement compared with what we perceive to be virtual reality simulations in this world. And, you know, this is not just supposition. This is provable scientific fact.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Yes. I mean it\u2019s so good that we think it\u2019s real. [laughs]<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yeah. You know, the five senses just decode vibrational information into electrical signals, send it to the brain, and the brain decodes it into this construct that we think is outside-there but it\u2019s actually inside-us.<\/p>\n

The only place this world exists, a so-called solid world, a three dimensional world, is out-there, we think. But actually it doesn\u2019t exist out-there. Out-there is just vibrational fields. It exists in-here as we construct it. And even the brain is a decoded construct, as well. It\u2019s on an energetic level that we do the decoding, really.<\/p>\n

This is very, very important because what the manipulators do, because they\u2019ve hoarded this basic knowledge and passed it over at the highest level of the secret society network and sucked it out of public circulation.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Yep.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 They know that if we look out-there for answers, believing that there is an out-there, instead of an illusory projection that\u2019s going on in-here, then we\u2019re never going to change anything.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Yep.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Never! We\u2019re never going to change anything, And once you go: Ah! There\u2019s no out-there, so where\u2019s it coming from? Oh! It\u2019s coming from in-here, so this is where I have to change. Oh! There you go!<\/em><\/p>\n

It\u2019s what I call — and this is what most people do because of the suppression of this understanding — is they stand in the movie theater and they shout at the screen because they don\u2019t like the movie.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Uh huh.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 And people say: You\u2019re crazy. You\u2019re never gonna change the movie shouting at the screen. Go find the projection room. Change the reel if you don\u2019t like the movie!<\/em><\/p>\n

And the projection is deep within us, you know. Some research I saw recently says that only about 5% of behavior and decisions that we make are with the conscious mind. I would actually say that\u2019s not true, personally. I\u2019d say 100% of what happens in this three-dimensional reality\u2019s only in our head — actually is a projection.<\/p>\n

The conscious mind is actually not the decision-maker at all. It\u2019s the observer and experiencer of it, and it literally is the same principle as a movie projector which comes from within, within what we call the subconscious, where all those patterns of air which we\u2019re being influenced by and are affecting our projection and our reading of it. And it comes out of the subconscious. By the time it hits the screen in-here, symbolically on the movie theater, it\u2019s a done deal.<\/p>\n

This is where the change has to take place — within us — to change the projection which is our conscious mind\u2019s experience. People are so caught in the conscious mind as that\u2019s the only level.<\/p>\n

I mean, you hear them talk about subconscious and all that stuff, but really it\u2019s: I thought it.<\/em>Well, how come experiments have shown that the electrical changes and muscular changes to make an action happen, happen a split-second before the conscious mind has decided to do it?<\/p>\n

It\u2019s because they\u2019re playing it out. And so, this talk about We must go within<\/em>, this New Age \u201cmust go within\u201d — and there\u2019s much about the New Age I would challenge — but this basic theme is absolutely right, I would say.<\/p>\n

And what the whole conspiracy\u2019s trying to do is get us to look out-there. Let\u2019s go and protest. Let\u2019s go and do this. Let\u2019s go and do that.<\/em> And you protest and you have a million people on the streets of London protesting against war. And what happens? The war goes on, and then they start another bugger.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 It\u2019s just more dialectic.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yeah. We need to change the projection.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 This is actually something that we\u2019ve come around to, and we\u2019re aware that Consciousness is where the change has to happen. And then Consciousness is also where you have to apply the change in your vision of reality.<\/p>\n

You can\u2019t actually just stop there. It actually has to permeate everything. So it needs to be embodied in this body, but we have to talk about who\u2019s in control. So if Consciousness is in control and I can use this to do, for example, what we\u2019re doing here, which can be used to further change, and push the change, and help the change, then this is a good thing.<\/p>\n

But it\u2019s not enough, in other words, just go to in like Buddha and simply sit in your mind and do nothing. Because doing nothing is also not the answer.<\/p>\n

We actually came here with a purpose. A game is being played out here and if you stay in the Consciousness and you\u2019re able to change your inner self and then mirror it outside, and facilitate, which is what you\u2019re doing, obviously. And obviously you embody this in your life. And what we\u2019ve been doing with Camelot is we\u2019re also talking about… You can\u2019t actually demonstrate in the streets and get real results because it\u2019s really, you know, action \/ reaction. It\u2019s really that.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Exactly. I agree.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 But you can<\/em> join minds and meditate. There are places for action that are actually really proactive and can change the world in a positive way. It\u2019s a very interesting dilemma for people that they have to actually embody the change that they seek, and live it. You know, you cannot be a contradiction to what\u2019s inside. It doesn\u2019t work. There has to be a through-line.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Well, I would put it this way. I would say that, as I mentioned a few minutes ago, that this reality, this holographic, illusory, physical construct which we put together in our heads is like a holographic Internet, I call it. That is 100% a projection and by the time it hits the screen, it\u2019s a done deal in our experience.<\/p>\n

But a lot of people I\u2019ve come across and heard, they do think that if you just sit and meditate or just go within, then that\u2019s all you need to do. But this is a projection and it\u2019s a projection from somewhere. So this projection is an open book of the inner-us, individually and collectively. So what we play out in this experience says everything about our state of being.<\/p>\n

You can say Go within,<\/em> and you can use it as an excuse to not go without and you can go within and meditate. OK. So what\u2019s happening in the projection as the result of what you\u2019re doing? The only projection that you\u2019re affecting is you sitting cross-legged in the corner. What else is changing?<\/p>\n

Yes of course you can change things vibrationally, to an extent, but what is happening in the world is saying what\u2019s happening in us, and we\u2019ve kind of missed that connection. So, if we\u2019re doing nothing to make a contribution to the kind of world we\u2019d like to live in, in the physical world, then that says something about the state of us within. But we\u2019re not<\/em> doing that.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Right.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 And I see so many excuses being made by people who have become to a certain extent aware of some of what\u2019s going on, so that they can justify to themselves why they\u2019re doing nothing. People say to me: You don\u2019t tell us what to do.<\/em><\/p>\n

And I say: Well, actually, I talk about becoming conscious and all that stuff. I think, you know, that\u2019s a start. But, it ain\u2019t for me to tell you what to do. And if you think that I have to tell you what to do, then you\u2019re not listening, because this is about taking power back to the point where we project, rather than looking out-here at a done deal.<\/em><\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Absolutely.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 There\u2019s an active paradox here, isn\u2019t there? Because that\u2019s not the whole story. Otherwise you\u2019d be sitting in the corner smiling and not talking to us here, and not working as hard as you do, and not talking to people to help the process of waking them up so that they can then join you in this understanding, which we share with you also.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s important, in a sense, to pretend that all this is real, because this is the platform from which we can waken ourselves up and rejoin Consciousness again. And so it\u2019s a paradox. It goes on at both levels. What you say is true, and this all is an illusion, and it all doesn\u2019t matter. But it\u2019s all important enough for us to be talking about it.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 What I was saying is, in your presentation where you\u2019re talking about Consciousness and the Mind and the problems with staying just in Mind… There\u2019s a lot of brilliant people out there coming to brilliant conclusions. And yet they can\u2019t live it. You see? The manifestation doesn\u2019t go anywhere.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yeah. It becomes an intellectual, academic kind of point of observation rather than Consciousness, which is something that just is.<\/p>\n

The difference that I am now increasingly making is between Mind and Consciousness. And I would go further and say that we talk about \u201cmy mind, your mind, his mind, her mind\u201d. I don\u2019t see it like that. I talk about The Mind.<\/p>\n

The Mind is a construct of the virtual reality universe which allows us – Consciousness – to interconnect with this virtual reality. It\u2019s like a conduit. And there\u2019s absolutely nothing wrong with it whatsoever if it serves the experience of Consciousness, and serves our ability to interact with this virtual reality universe.<\/p>\n

What has happened — and I would strongly suggest it\u2019s been manipulated to happen, not least by these families and other levels of manipulation — is we have been manipulated into a false identity which is identifying who we are with Mind, which operates directly through the body, and calls itself \u201cDavid Icke\u201d, \u201cEthel Jones\u201d, \u201cCharlie Smith,\u201d that looks in the mirror and thinks that\u2019s who it is.<\/p>\n

Basically, you know, this is a biological computer. It\u2019s not a computer that just reacts to the way it\u2019s programmed to react to data input. It has the ability to — they call them living computers — biological computers. They\u2019re trying to build them now in different parts of the world. It has the ability to assess information and make decisions on it. In other words, to quite a large extent it has the ability to think.<\/p>\n

What happens is, if we get caught in Mind and self-identity or \u201cThat reflection in the mirror is me\u201d<\/em>, and not just my experience, then Mind starts to govern our sense of reality. And Mind is about division, apartness, hierarchy, rules, regulations, laws, limitation.<\/p>\n

And, you know, you can have someone in the New Age arena who talks about spirituality, talks about other dimensions \u2013 which are other virtual reality games, I would suggest – other levels, but blatantly is stuck in Mind and the values of Mind.<\/p>\n

I mean, I hear New Age people talk about the Great White Brotherhood and the hierarchy of the angels, and stuff. That\u2019s Mind talking!<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Of course it is.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Consciousness doesn\u2019t do hierarchy. It just is. All possibility. All that is.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Yep.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 And so, the same mind-construct, The Mind, can entrap a New Ager as it entraps in another part of The Mind a Wall Street banker.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Yeah. It is just another religion. It\u2019s another religion.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yeah! That\u2019s the thing, you know. I was talking to… on an interview yesterday, and we got into some interesting areas. He asked me about religion. Well, religion and the political party, and the New Age, and all these things that we don\u2019t call \u201creligions\u201d \u2013 institutions – they\u2019re all the same construct.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Right.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Because Consciousness just is. Consciousness doesn\u2019t think. Consciousness knows. That\u2019s why Consciousness is silent when we access it, because it\u2019s got nothing to work out.<\/p>\n

The Mind is where the chatter comes from because it\u2019s constantly trying to work things out. [makes chattering sounds] What about yesterday? What\u2019d she say about me?<\/em> [more chattering sounds]<\/p>\n

Silence — Consciousness. So, to hold you in Mind, and this conspiracy is about holding the population in Mind because then they gotcha…<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Absolutely.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 …because that\u2019s their stadium \u2013 Mind. They\u2019re stuck in Mind. If they were conscious, they wouldn\u2019t do what they\u2019re doing. To hold us in Mind, they have to sell us something to rigidly believe in.<\/p>\n

So, religions … brilliant example of rigid belief. And what is it? Once you rigidly believe something, you then call it a name.<\/p>\n

What are you?<\/em> You don\u2019t say: I\u2019m Consciousness.<\/em> How many people say: Hello. Who are you? I\u2019m Consciousness. Oh, so am I. Nice to meet you. <\/em><\/p>\n

No-no. What we are is what we do: I\u2019m a journalist. I work in a factory. <\/em>What are you? I\u2019m a Hindu. I\u2019m a Christian.<\/em><\/p>\n

These are mind-constructs. These are mind-prisons that limit our sense of self. So once you have a rigid belief, then you give it a name.<\/p>\n

Now, I have a simple philosophy about all this: If you can tell me what you believe and give it a name, you\u2019re in a prison. Because everything just is<\/em>. We all just are<\/em>. It\u2019s \u201cThe Force with No Name\u201d, I call it — Consciousness.<\/p>\n

And so you create religion and then after the name, then comes the rules and regulations — this is how the construct goes — of what you have to conform to if you are going to be allowed to call yourself whatever name that\u2019s been come up with. You\u2019re not a Christian if you believe that.<\/em> And all this stuff.<\/p>\n

Then you look at political parties. You have a group of people. They get together and they want to do something politically. So they give what they\u2019re doing a name: Democrats, Republicans, Labor Party, Conservative Party, whatever. So there\u2019s the name.<\/p>\n

Now come the rules and regulations that decide if you can call yourself one or the other. You can\u2019t believe that and be a Conservative. You can\u2019t believe that and be a Liberal.<\/em> It\u2019s the same construct, wherever you look.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Yes.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 And then the belief system… As research has shown, rigid beliefs, the neurons fire off in a certain network and sequence, in line with the belief, because what the brain\u2019s doing is then filtering, decoding reality and circumstance through<\/em> the belief system, which manifests in the brain as the way the neurons fire off.<\/p>\n

And suddenly, instead of being free-thinking, or even better, free-knowing – conscious – you are operating in a tiny little box. And that box is basically the way your… Not basically. It is<\/em> the way your brain decodes reality.<\/p>\n

So once you\u2019re into belief, a rigid belief, then they gotcha. And that\u2019s why they want to sell you rigid beliefs.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Yes.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Absolutely.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 There\u2019s an active paradox here, isn\u2019t there? Because that\u2019s not the whole story. Otherwise, you\u2019d be sitting in the corner smiling and not talking to us here, and not working as hard as you do, and not talking to people to help the process of waking them up so that they can then join you in this understanding, which we share with you also.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s important, in a sense, to pretend<\/em> that all this is real because this is the platform from which we can waken ourselves up and rejoin consciousness again. And so, it\u2019s a paradox. It goes on at both levels. What you say is true, and this all is an illusion, and it all doesn\u2019t matter. BUT it\u2019s all important enough for us to be talking about it.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 It matches, Bill, in the sense that… Do we want to experience a reality that\u2019s very, very unpleasant, and controlling, and limiting, and frightening, and stressful?<\/p>\n

Or do we want to experience a reality that is loving, kind; where no-one goes hungry in a world of plenty; where there is no war because no-one would even consider the idea that it was a possibility or an option?<\/p>\n

That\u2019s the choice we\u2019re making. We\u2019re always Consciousness, and when we leave the body we\u2019ll become at least much more aware of everything than we are now.<\/p>\n

So we\u2019re always conscious. We\u2019re all eternal Consciousness. But the question is: What kind of experience do we want here?<\/em><\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Exactly.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 You know, that\u2019s the choice.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 We call it, What kind of game do you want to play?<\/em><\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yeah.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 We have a chance now, because we are Consciousness, to change the rules of the game, to make it something different than it is. Change inside, but let\u2019s also agree<\/em>, because that\u2019s what\u2019s happening. That\u2019s what a Consciousness revolution has to be about.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s not good enough for you, David Icke, to have got it. It\u2019s not good enough for us to have got it. What we need is for everyone to get it, to tune this game here on this plane, because that\u2019s what it\u2019s really about.<\/p>\n

In other words, Consciousness… and this is where it gets into What is Consciousness?<\/em> It\u2019s love. And what is love? It\u2019s actually the awareness of all of us.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Hmm. Well, I would say everything is Consciousness. Mind is Consciousness, but it\u2019s a much denser expression of Consciousness, and that\u2019s why it sees everything in terms of limitation.<\/p>\n

And as people become conscious, it can – to use the term of a friend of mine in South Africa – Consciousness can \u201cconscientize\u201d Mind and bring its awareness out of the level that it currently perceives reality.<\/p>\n

But I do think it\u2019s important that, if we\u2019re going to play this game successfully, that we understand where the game\u2019s being played. It\u2019s not being played out-there.<\/p>\n

See, what the five senses are doing, like I said earlier, is that they\u2019re decoding vibrational information, turning it into electric signals. The brain then constructs this apparent reality out-there, which actually is only in-here.<\/p>\n

So the prime reality is vibrational. That\u2019s the prime reality. That\u2019s where the change has to take place, because as the change takes place there, the five senses decode different vibrational states into electrical signals.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 There\u2019s that wonderful story told by Michael Talbot in The Holographic Universe<\/em>.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yeah.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 And I read that page over and over again when I first saw that book in the late 1980s. This is the story about the stage hypnotist who hypnotized the father to believe that his daughter was invisible. And then he was able to read an inscription on the watch held behind her body, because for him she was no longer there, and reality had changed. It was physically different in his mind.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Well, this is the whole point, you see. For a hypnotist to put a watch behind someone\u2019s back and someone the other side of it read it, that\u2019s perceived to be impossible. But it\u2019s only impossible if you believe this world to be solid and real and out-there.<\/p>\n

The reason it could happen is because the prime reality — and I can\u2019t emphasize this more — the prime reality that is playing out here is vibrational. That<\/em> has to change or this<\/em> can\u2019t change.<\/p>\n

And so, if the hypnotist, as he did, implanted the program into the guy\u2019s brain not to decode the vibrational level, the prime level, of his daughter through this system into a holographic, so-called physical form that we see, then he would decode all the other vibrational fields in the room into people and walls and furniture.<\/p>\n

But because it\u2019s like a computer being fire-walled off, he doesn\u2019t decode the daughter\u2019s prime state — your prime state, our prime state, the prime state of everything, this vibrational level — into the holographic, apparently out-there reality.<\/p>\n

And so she doesn\u2019t exist in his head as a holographic form, i.e, supposedly physical, so he can\u2019t see her. Because she\u2019s not there, he can see what\u2019s behind her. Therefore he can read a watch even though she\u2019s standing there to everyone else in the room. They can see her. Why? Because their brain has not been programmed not to read that energy field into a holographic form.<\/p>\n

Now, just as a quick aside, how many things, collectively, are we not reading that are there to be read?<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Well, one of the things is there\u2019s more than five senses. OK? And the heart is… It\u2019s not just the mind. It\u2019s actually the heart. It\u2019s really the heart and the intelligence of the heart that you can see through if we\u2019d only use that. So it\u2019s more than…<\/p>\n

In other words, these are tools for us. Our mind is a tool. Our heart is a tool. But you can\u2019t stay up here. [gesturing to head] You\u2019ve actually gotta go through the heart to really see. See, we don\u2019t see with our eyes. That\u2019s actually… that\u2019s a construct. That\u2019s a mental construct.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yeah. We see with our brain.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 We actually see with our heart more than anything else and through the heart. And so what happens is, it\u2019s a union between the mind and the heart…<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 I agree.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 … that allows you to see. And you could put yourself in that man\u2019s position and say: How could the man see through the implant that was put into his brain?<\/em><\/p>\n

First of all, what did he do? He had to accept the magician\u2019s, you know, implant, to begin with. So in the same way, we in society are accepting the implant, whether it\u2019s television or whatever, which is blocking our real view of reality. We\u2019re accepting it.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yeah. I mean, the thing is though, that what the hypnotist was doing was just programming the decoding mechanism.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Yes.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 And therefore he didn\u2019t decode a vibrational field, i.e., his daughter, into a holographic form. Therefore he didn\u2019t see her.<\/p>\n

And I completely agree that the heart has the potential to be a massive part of our reality-decoding, our reality-expression.<\/p>\n

But we also have to appreciate that this conspiracy… While we see the George Bushes of the world and the Barack Obamas and people like that, the Kissingers, the real level of this conspiracy, where the world is being controlled, is on a vibrational level.<\/p>\n

That\u2019s why I talk about these reptilians that are doing this and others, too, operating outside this reality. They operate on a level of the vibrational level. That\u2019s where the manipulation\u2019s going on.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Yep.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 And we need to be, you know, kind to ourselves as well, in understanding the challenges that we face, and not least trying to understand a world that is being manipulated into a state, or has been manipulated into a state, which has just stopped us understanding the world.<\/p>\n

And so, you know, we look at television and the manipulation of television and newspapers and stuff, but when we see a newspaper or we see a television program, we\u2019re just seeing the decoded version of a vibrational field.<\/p>\n

Those newspapers and those television programs and news programs, all the rest of it, they are actually \u201cphysical holographic representations\u201d of the prime reality, which is a vibrational field.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Yeah. Yes.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 It\u2019s at that<\/em> level that that manipulation we call \u201csubliminal\u201d, that manipulation we call \u201clying to the people,\u201d and all the rest of it, actually happens.<\/p>\n

And so basically what they\u2019ve done is pull a vibrational veil over us. If you can make it powerful enough and dense enough, you focus peoples\u2019 sense of perception into such a narrow area that they disconnect from an awareness, and therefore a deep effect in their perception of consciousness.<\/p>\n

You\u2019re isolating their point of observation into Mind. And that\u2019s happening on a vibrational level which then plays out in what we call the physical world.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Yes.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 So what\u2019s vital – and this is why this information is so important – not just… I\u2019ll tell you what I\u2019ve found. Nothing represents literally and symbolically the prison [more] than the left brain, which deals in apartness, language, hierarchy, structure, and all this stuff.<\/p>\n

And the information about the five-sense conspiracy, I\u2019ve found, one of its great values is that it operates in a left-brain realm. When you\u2019re explaining how this and that and the other is connected to the same people, and they control that, and this is what they\u2019re doing, and these are the techniques they use … that\u2019s left-brain information.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Oh yeah.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Yes.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 And when people say: Oh, you shouldn\u2019t put out that information. It\u2019s negative.<\/em> They don\u2019t understand that we\u2019re looking at a multi-level situation. Therefore we have to deal with it on a multi-level basis. That means covering all bases, not just sitting cross-legged on a mountain.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Of course.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Now, what I\u2019ve found over the years is that once the left brain… Because symbolically I see, you know, you\u2019ve got the left brain, which is what I\u2019m talking about. You\u2019ve got the right brain which is a much more out-there connection and sees everything in unity, the creative urge.<\/p>\n

Then you\u2019ve got the bridge, the corpus callosum<\/em>, which ideally should be sharing information so you\u2019ve got a balance. You\u2019re in this world and of it. You know.<\/p>\n

But what the conspiracy does — again it\u2019s all on a vibrational level that it goes in, and then it plays out here — is they put, symbolically, soldiers on the door to the left brain.<\/p>\n

This is why, to progress within this society, one of the most effective ways is to keep passing exams, and passing exams, and getting degrees, and all this stuff, because that\u2019s… An exam is: Here\u2019s some left-brain information, now give it me back on a paper telling me what I\u2019ve told you to believe. OK. You\u2019ve done it very well. You\u2019ve got a first-class degree.<\/em> A first-class indoctrination, often.<\/p>\n

Now, what this conspiracy information, on a five-sense level does, it talks to the left brain in the language the left brain understands. And I\u2019ve seen it over the time in my personal experience, and of course other people would have seen it, it starts to make the left brain change its sense of reality.<\/p>\n

Once it starts to change that, it starts to think: Well, hold on a second. If everything I thought about the world here was wrong, and it\u2019s not like that at all, what the heck else is in this world is not like I thought it was?<\/em><\/p>\n

I\u2019ve seen this, where people, once that left brain starts this process of withdrawing from a sense of \u201cIt knows what\u2019s going on\u201d<\/em> to \u201cI never knew\u201d…<\/em> then it starts to move. As it starts to move, it literally starts to open to other possibility, and then this movement between the hemispheres can start to happen.<\/p>\n

I\u2019ve seen people who would have laughed in my face about reality and all that stuff, who now encompass it because they went through the process of credible names, dates, places, five-sense information, explaining logically why the world is not like they thought it was on a five-sense level. Everything starts to move then.<\/p>\n

So, you know, it\u2019s important that the de-programming of peoples\u2019 manipulated sense of reality happens on multi levels, not just kind of, you know, \u201cWe must become spiritual, we must go within\u201d<\/em>, you know.<\/p>\n

I mean, people say: Oh, Alex Jones, he just frightens people.<\/em> And all that. Well, hold on a second. You know, just hold on a second.<\/p>\n

You know what\u2019s negative? It\u2019s not information. It\u2019s ignorance. That\u2019s what\u2019s negative — ignorance. And if you want to be ignorant, and therefore a manipulator\u2019s party trick, then you go ahead.<\/p>\n

And if you want to look at the information, the five-sense information that I put out, and Alex puts out, and people like that and many others, and say: It\u2019s negative. It\u2019s frightening… <\/em><\/p>\n

Well, the fact that you find it frightening instead of empowering because you now understand the game better and therefore you have more power to do something about it, then that is not a statement about those putting the information out. It\u2019s a statement about the way you\u2019re receiving it.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Exactly. Something that we like very much was something that George Green said to us in our interview with us April of last year. He used this little analogy.<\/p>\n

He said: Listen, if your car is on the railroad track, and there\u2019s a train coming down, and you don\u2019t know that, and I don\u2019t tell you, then it\u2019s shame on me for not telling you and shame on you for not knowing.<\/em> And this is just a nice little way of encapsulating what you\u2019re saying.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yeah. I have an analogy I use, very similar to that. I talk about the – not the hurricane coming… What do you call them? The twisters?<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 The tornadoes.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 The tornadoes. Yeah. And the tornado\u2019s coming but you have put your head in a bucket of sand because you don\u2019t want to face the fact that the tornado\u2019s coming. Now, you can hide from that for a while, but you\u2019re still there and the tornado\u2019s still coming. And your bum is still in the air, and it\u2019s gonna get smacked very shortly by a tornado.<\/p>\n

If you lift your head from the sand, face the situation that you\u2019re in — there\u2019s a tornado coming — now you have taken power back to yourself by saying: OK. I see the situation now. I can take avoiding action, for my benefit.<\/em><\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Of course.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 And this is why it\u2019s so important… You know, I hear people who you might New Age, who talk about \u201cletting go of fear\u201d and \u201ctaking your power back,\u201d and \u201cCome to this workshop and we\u2019ll show you how to do it<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n

And then they say: Oh, you mustn\u2019t talk about this conspiracy. It\u2019s too negative.<\/em> What happened to letting go of fear and all this stuff, you know?<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 These are the guys who heard that the Angel Gabriel is going to come and save us, you know? That doesn\u2019t work either.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Every level … it seems to me every belief system, every mind construct, seems to have a version of the cavalry coming over the horizon, you know: OK. Here\u2019s the cavalry. OK? Here\u2019s the cavalry. Here\u2019s the cavalry. There\u2019s the cavalry.<\/em><\/p>\n

And we need to understand that, you know, because if we give our power away to other people, where do those other people actually… Where do they actually stand, physically, as we give our power away to them?<\/p>\n

Out-there, symbolically. So what we\u2019re doing is giving the power away into the illusion and then wondering why nothing ever changes.<\/p>\n

The whole conspiracy, or the foundation of the conspiracy, is to persuade 6 billion people to give their power away every day. And the power used to control us is the power of these people saying: Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.<\/em><\/p>\n

Take it back, house of cards comes down, because that\u2019s what it is. It\u2019s a house of cards, and we\u2019re holding it together in-here. We\u2019re constructing the house of cards in-here. Great news… we can bring it down in-here.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Right. But I have to say that we\u2019re not only going to do that with the Mind. That\u2019s what\u2019s really important here.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 No, the Mind plays it out. We’re going to do it by becoming conscious. That\u2019s the point.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Absolutely, but also left brain \/ right brain. I want to address that a little bit.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Right.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Because it\u2019s not enough to reconstruct reality based on things getting to a place where you don\u2019t know, and then you\u2019re willing to open to a new construction of reality such that you\u2019re going to play the game different, but you\u2019re still lodged in the left brain.<\/p>\n

You must bring in the holistic view, the view that encompasses the heart, that encompasses the female, which is the yin-yang side of things, because what we have here, has been playing out for centuries, is a really yang<\/em> view of reality, especially on the Western side of the world.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Well kind of. I\u2019d say it slightly differently.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 So what I have to say is, it\u2019s more than just reconstructing the left brain in a new way to play the game better, because that\u2019s actually cheating yourself on another level.<\/p>\n

You need to grow and open the door between the left and the right brain, such that there is a flow. And that means that you\u2019re talking about the heart. You\u2019re talking about senses that are beyond the five. And so you have to…<\/p>\n

What you had to do in your own exploration was… you never would have gotten the information you wanted to get by staying in the left brain. As you said, you had physical sensations. They locked your feet. They gave you information that came out of nowhere. You couldn\u2019t make logical sense of it. Logic was out the window. So left brain\u2019s gone, you know. It\u2019s even worse, or useless, when you get into that place.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 I agree.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 So you must actually… It\u2019s like traveling, in a sense. You must actually travel to a different place. What you do [meaning David] is, you follow your intuition.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Right.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 You\u2019re over on your, I guess they call it the right side of the brain. That\u2019s where you are. That\u2019s where intuition resides, so you\u2019ve opened that door. There is a flow. And that\u2019s really what has to happen.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Well, yeah. I mean, I take my intuition, which has guided me and has lead me to information. Also it\u2019s like a filter. I have a vibrational sensation when something is not true and something is true, and another one when it\u2019s maybe partly true.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 That\u2019s holistic.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yeah. The left brain\u2019s still important in bringing those concepts down into a language of communication that people can assimilate that are stuck in the left brain. Because if you don\u2019t talk in logical — from their perspective, logical terms that the left brain can understand, which is under lock and key — then that key will never open.<\/p>\n

And that is also why what you\u2019ve just said, that you will… Except on rare occasions when I\u2019m talking in a very small time-scale or doing an interview on a specific subject, I will never talk about the five-sense conspiracy without the nature of reality, and the influence of Consciousness, and all the rest of it.<\/p>\n

Another point you make is about the heart. I agree. The heart is absolutely at the heart of this and is much more powerful than the brain and much more powerful than The Mind because it is connected. I would say that\u2019s what connects us through the Consciousness.<\/p>\n

And this conspiracy also… Because, you know, it\u2019s a simple thing. In the deep shadows behind the people in dark suits is a force, whatever you want to call it, that understands how this works.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Right.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 So they\u2019ve structured a society that is to close down all the channels to Consciousness, to isolate us in Mind because then we\u2019re playing in their stadium. And one of the key things they use is to close the heart. To close the heart.<\/p>\n

And if you want to open the heart and you want to become conscious — it\u2019s what I say in my talks — then what we need to do is to ask the question: What would Consciousness do at this point?<\/em><\/p>\n

Would Consciousness, when we\u2019re faced with this set of circumstances say: Well, what\u2019s the best outcome for me?<\/em> No. Consciousness would say: What is the right, just, fair thing in this situation for me to do?<\/em><\/p>\n

And if we, when we\u2019re faced with choices all through the day, ask that question: In this circumstance, what would Consciousness do?<\/em> And act upon it \u2013 crucially — then everything changes. And our life changes.<\/p>\n

Why? Because we are now starting to resonate with Consciousness because we\u2019re operating in its realm, which is… By doing what we say Consciousness would do in these circumstances, we are vibrationally locking in to that level and therefore becoming more and more influenced by Consciousness.<\/p>\n

When we say: Well, yeah, I see that, but it\u2019s not good for me if I do what\u2019s right in this situation. I must do what\u2019s right for me.<\/em> That\u2019s Mind, so that\u2019s locking you into Mind.<\/p>\n

You know, this thing about becoming conscious… I see it so often all over the world. I mean, I was in India just before Christmas. And, you know, good luck to them, but they make it sound so complicated.<\/p>\n

And you know, a lot of the complication, I see this with New Age people that stand on stages and do workshops, not all of them of course. I see it with gurus in India and stuff like that. Not all of them, again, but vast numbers of them.<\/p>\n

The complexity says two things: One, they don\u2019t really understand it, because if you really understand something, you can put it in simple language.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 I\u2019d agree with that.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 This is why you get academia repeating jargon. And you say: Look, I\u2019m an idiot, mate. OK? I\u2019ve never passed an exam in me life. I left school at 15 to be a professional soccer player. You\u2019re gonna have to put it in language I can understand.<\/em> They can\u2019t because they don\u2019t really understand it. They\u2019re just repeating jargon.<\/p>\n

And the other side of the complexity of becoming conscious is, if you can make it sound complex, then you\u2019ve taken power over your potential audience. That\u2019s a big thing.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Absolutely. It\u2019s still a power game.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 You have to come through me. And the more I make it sound complex, the more power I have, and therefore the more you must come to me, and the longer you must stay with me. And, by the way, put the check in the box as you leave. <\/em>[Kerry laughs]<\/p>\n

And yet it is so simple. This is the point I would make. People talk about \u201cWe must become conscious\u201d. It\u2019s a lie.<\/p>\n

We are<\/em> conscious. That is our natural state. What\u2019s happened is, barriers that we have been manipulated — and we must take responsibility for it too, big time — are put in place, have symbolically created a concrete shell around our natural state. And in this concrete shell are all the things that control people — fear and stress, and conflict, and seeking success, and competition, and all this stuff.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s not that we have to become conscious. We are conscious. It\u2019s breaking that shell. And that shell is Mind domination. If we can break that shell, we become conscious.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 It\u2019s like the lie that\u2019s in language when people say: My spirit, My soul,<\/em> and I\u2019m hungry.<\/em> It\u2019s like, wait a minute, this is the wrong way around here. You know: I have a body and my body is hungry. My body is tired. And I <\/em>am a soul and I <\/em>am a spirit.<\/em><\/p>\n

That language, which is a product of The Mind in the first place, because we don\u2019t think how… We don\u2019t talk how we think. We think how we talk. And language is one of the ways in which we\u2019re programmed.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 A massive, massive way.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 As George Orwell pointed out in 1984<\/em>.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Programming the computer. But what are words? They\u2019re vibrational fields. So, again, even the words… The programmers are actually coming in at a vibrational level, a waveform level, and they\u2019re only decoded into language when they pass though the brain construct.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 That\u2019s true.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 So everything gets in, that plays out-here, gets in at vibrational level. That\u2019s why we need to get to that level of ourselves and clear ourselves out because that\u2019s where all the patterns are put in.<\/p>\n

And I use this analogy in my talks, that, you know, a ball, its natural place in a tank of water is on the top, just floating away. It\u2019s a natural state. Free. Going like…<\/p>\n

If you want to put the ball in an unnatural state in the tank, you\u2019ve gotta put in on the bottom of the tank and you\u2019ve gotta hold it there. You can\u2019t put it there and it\u2019ll stay there because it\u2019s not its natural state. Its natural state is floating on the top. Our natural state is being conscious.<\/p>\n

So what their manipulation has had to do is — and this says something about the true scale of who we are — it has had to bombard us with so many multi-level systems of control, diversion, and manufactured ignorance, to symbolically hold the ball on the bottom. And it hasn\u2019t succeeded.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Actually, they\u2019re mounting, these systems of control. That\u2019s what the move towards a Fascist state and a world government is all about.<\/p>\n

I actually heard an interview with you in which you talked about that fact. You see, the fact that we are – to use your analogy, which is a very good one – we are Consciousness and as that ball we are moving as a group towards the surface of the water. We\u2019re actually getting out of their grasp.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Right.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 As that happens, they\u2019re intensifying their game to want to keep that ball down and so that\u2019s why the stakes are rising on both sides.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Couldn\u2019t agree more.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 And what\u2019s going to happen is… Look at the natural, I mean, even the metaphor is perfect because what\u2019s going to happen ultimately, the water and the ball are going to win. OK? There\u2019s no way that those forces… As much as they intensify, sometime, somewhere that ball is going to get to the surface, like it or not, The Powers That Be.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yeah.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Now, what\u2019s going to be interesting is if they actually start understanding on a deeper level than power and their power-over because \u201cI\u2019ve got the clue\u201d<\/em> and \u201cI\u2019ve got the key\u201d.<\/em> That\u2019s what the Illuminati, you know, that\u2019s what they think.<\/p>\n

They think: If you don\u2019t get it, then we can hold you down. You deserve to be held down.<\/em>That\u2019s actually their… I\u2019m sure you know this. This is their rationale.<\/p>\n

So what happens when we, because we\u2019re greater than our bodies… the Consciousness that we are is greater than what they are because they\u2019re on limitation, start to win in their own mind? You see? And they start to let go.<\/p>\n

Because this is what\u2019s probably happening. There have to be many members that have been under the thumb of this game and have joined and are being, you know, will be patted on the head and given all the reinforcement necessary to keep them in the game. What happens when they start to see the light, so to speak?<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 And some of them, I\u2019m sure, already are, because there\u2019s nothing more fiercely compartmentalized than this whole control structure itself.<\/p>\n

There\u2019s so many people within the control structure, right down into mainstream society, that are daily contributing to this gathering Fascist global state, who have no idea of the true implications of it. Or, as they go up higher and higher, have been mislead about the nature of themselves, reality, and the force behind it.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 So the nature of the chaos and the destruction will actually work in the favor of releasing the ball because what happens is, during chaos you can change sides, you see. You can actually, you know… It\u2019s really hard to maintain control during a time of destruction.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yeah. I agree. What I would say is that the ball will get to the top of the water when the ball realizes that it is the water. [Kerry laughs]<\/p>\n

And the scale of the movement and the speed of movement of this conspiracy now as it puts in more and more surveillance, more and more control, more and more centralization of power, etcetera…I\u2019ve been saying for years now that is not about even gathering more power. It is about defending the control that\u2019s already there. Because they understand.<\/p>\n

I mean, if I can go to a psychic in England in 1990 to be told through this psychic that this vibrational change was coming, was going to create a spiritual revolution… I mean, are the Illuminati families not going to know that this spiritual change, this vibrational alarm clock is coming? Of course they are and they\u2019ve known about it for a long time.<\/p>\n

And so, what we\u2019re looking at is a… I mean, when you lose the power — from \u201cWe\u2019re in control and we\u2019re going to get more power\u201d<\/em> to \u201cWe must impose more and more control to stop this happening\u201d — <\/em>they\u2019re not in a, if you like, a pro-active situation now as they push this Orwellian state on.<\/p>\n

They\u2019re in a defensive situation, trying to keep the lid on human ignorance as this vibrational change brings it to the surface.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Yeah.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 And, you know, compared with Consciousness, this Illuminati… I mean, they\u2019re flies on an elephant\u2019s back, you know, and they\u2019re gonna get removed.<\/p>\n

I think it\u2019s not about winning the game, and it\u2019s not about losing the game. It\u2019s about realizing the nature of the game, and the fact that it\u2019s not about winning and losing, it\u2019s just about experiencing.<\/p>\n

And as these pyramids of control, certainly the lower levels first, start getting picked off by this vibrational change, and people start to see things differently, you know…<\/p>\n

As I\u2019ve been saying for 20 years, look at a pyramid. The capstone\u2019s the place of the power.<\/em> No it\u2019s not. The capstone\u2019s up there because the rest of the pyramid\u2019s holding the bugger up there. The rest of the pyramid moves away, where\u2019s the capstone gonna go? It\u2019s gonna crash to the floor. There\u2019s nothing holding it up. We are holding up the structure that is our own control system.<\/p>\n

I used to tell a story years ago. You\u2019ll remember, Bill; Larry Grayson, a comedian in the UK. Right?<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Yes.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 I knew Larry towards the end of his life. He used to do big shows on the BBC and I was invited to his memorial service at Covent Garden after he died.<\/p>\n

There\u2019s another comedian in Britain called Roy Hudd, and he did this presentation about Larry\u2019s life. He told this story, and I sat there and I felt: Whoooo, that is so profound when applied to what we\u2019re talking about<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Roy Hudd said that Larry Grayson had told him this story, that in the days of music hall-type theater or the last vestiges of it, Larry was in an all-male show going around Britain. And he was the woman in it, because he used to dress up as a woman, Larry.<\/p>\n

The final scene of the show, or the final part of the show, was all the men ran on the stage dressed as sailors, singing Rule Britannia. <\/em>You know, [sings] Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the waves<\/em>, and all that stuff. You know, Britain has to rule everything.<\/p>\n

Anyway, so as this song\u2019s reaching its climax, all these sailors climb on each other\u2019s backs and form a pyramid on the stage. Right? And then Larry Grayson came on dressed as Britannia, with the gown and the helmet and the sword, and was manhandled up to the top of the pyramid of these men, you know, the big finish with the sword.<\/p>\n

And he said, one night things seemed to be going rather well, he said, until one of the sailors in the bottom left-hand corner got a cough. Right? And the cough got worse and worse and worse until he couldn\u2019t hold his place in the pyramid anymore. And he\u2019s standing on the stage at the bottom of the pyramid, this guy. You know. Ethel Jones and Charlie Smith.<\/p>\n

And in the end he couldn\u2019t hold it anymore because the cough got too bad, and he had to step out of the pyramid. What happened was, Larry Grayson at the top, symbolic of this Illuminati, ended up in the second row [Bill laughs] because the whole pyramid collapsed because one little guy on the left-hand bottom corner got a cough.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Yes. Lovely.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 You know, pyramid power, in one way, is all roads from the base of the pyramid lead up to the point of the pyramid, and that\u2019s how they control.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 The thing that I would like to connect up with here… It\u2019s so interesting what you\u2019re saying and we passionately agree with your thesis here. And one of the things which I love about your work is that it\u2019s like, in order to control, rather, one good way to control somebody is to lie to them. And therefore, if you\u2019re being lied to, and someone is trying to control you, these things are intimately connected.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Right.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 And we are being convinced that this reality is all that there is, that these are just animated hunks of meat that last three score years and ten, and then that\u2019s our lot. And then either we\u2019re pushing up daisies or we go to heaven or go to hell, which is another trap and another lie.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Absolutely.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 And meanwhile there\u2019s some fascinating things going on behind the scenes. And, as you must have known from your own research and your own contacts and your own conversations that you\u2019ve got a magical component to the controllers — meant in the real definition of the word magic<\/em> — black magic ceremonies, rituals, sacrifices, all kinds of things that you and I don\u2019t want to know about. But actually this is part of the truth of the matter. This is what they do. They evoke djinns. They do strange things.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yeah. I was getting an enormous amount of stuff about that in the late \u201990s.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 And it\u2019s not pleasant to look at, and it\u2019s real. And then there\u2019s another aspect to this, which is something that\u2019s been coming at us quite a lot from Black Projects insiders, which is not the black magic, but the black technology, which was well stated by Richard Hoagland, who told us that he\u2019d had a phone call from an insider who said that \u201cThey would rather lose an American city than give up their new physics\u201d.<\/em><\/p>\n

And this new physics… We were told by somebody who we met in Thailand in October; we\u2019ve given him the pseudonym of Jake Simpson. We know the guy very well. He said that the state of black physics at the moment is… When I say black physics<\/em>, it\u2019s like secret physics, as in Black Operations.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yeah.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Those guys are not all evil people, but they\u2019re on the inside and they\u2019re playing these games with all the resources and all the knowledge that is denied the public domain.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Right.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 [Black physics is] ten thousand years ahead of public sector physics, they say, accelerating away from public sector knowledge at the rate of 1000 years a year. I checked those figures with him. That\u2019s a lot of zeroes. Ten thousand years ahead! And he told us, for instance, that the technology exists to phase-shift soldiers, Special Forces soldiers, so that they can walk through walls.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 I\u2019ve heard that, a few years ago.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 You\u2019ve heard that?<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yeah.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 That\u2019s… Yeah. It\u2019s an interesting corroboration. These little stories pop up here and there in different researchers.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 I think the thing is, Bill, that the reason for the fast acceleration is there\u2019s a critical point where you understand reality, and from that point the potential just absolutely soars. Whereas, because of the suppression of science in the public arena, they\u2019re nowhere near, yet, that line where the potential soars.<\/p>\n

So in the secret projects they\u2019ve crossed that line and therefore they\u2019re accelerating away, at the rate you talk about, from mainstream scientific understanding.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 That\u2019s exactly right.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 And there\u2019s other dimensional intelligences who have gotten to that point.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Absolutely right.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 It\u2019s really a key. And ETs — negative, you know, service-to-self ETs, basically — that they\u2019re working with, and certainly becoming aware of the veil behind the veil.<\/p>\n

Because you can talk about Consciousness and Mind as we have here, but if you want to lay out, you know, if you want to understand what\u2019s really going on, you do have to talk about ETs and you have to talk about interdimensional entities and also…<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Sure.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 …entities that don\u2019t have physical bodies.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Sure. That\u2019s what I was saying earlier. We\u2019ve got to do this on all levels because it\u2019s operating on all levels.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 The best presentation which I heard of the answer to one of the most important questions — and I can\u2019t remember whether it was yourself or Jordan Maxwell, or perhaps both, who said:<\/p>\n

How could humans do the things that they do to other humans on this planet, as they seem to really be doing? How could we be trashing this planet, our home, in the way that we are, at the behest of the controllers? How could humans be doing this?<\/em><\/p>\n

And the answer is that actually they\u2019re not human at the highest level.<\/em> Is this something that you said, or was that Jordan Maxwell?<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 That\u2019s the thing that I\u2019ve been talking about for a while because, you know, this reality… We keeping talking about different levels. This reality obviously operates on different levels. You\u2019ve got the wave vibrational level. You\u2019ve got the electromagnetic level. You\u2019ve got the visible light level. And you\u2019ve got the digital level.<\/p>\n

And when you talk about the level of advancement and potential that you mentioned earlier, it is a cinch to… if you look at where the development of Artificial Intelligence is moving now within this Stone Age level of awareness, imagine what is possible at the cutting edge of the secret projects, and even beyond that, in the realms of the non-human levels of this.<\/p>\n

They have, without question, the ability to create Artificial Intelligence that looks to our… in the decoded world, because I\u2019m decoding you now. What you are is a vibrational field.<\/p>\n

So if you can create a vibrational field with Artificial Intelligence that is vibrating externally in the same form, range, that a human body is, this… Basically it\u2019s a biological computer human body, but what\u2019s animating it is different to what animates ours. Then I\u2019m going to decode you or I\u2019m going to decode this Artificial Intelligence, just like the lady in the red dress in The Matrix<\/em> movie.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Exactly.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 And she\u2019s going to look just like you and me. I remember being in that ayahuasca<\/em> state in 2003 and that female voice said to me: If you programmed a computer to abuse a child, would the computer have any emotional consequence for that, any emotional reaction?<\/em> None. It would just do what it\u2019s programmed to do.<\/p>\n

And one of the most blatant things about these Illuminati bloodlines is they have no empathy. They have no ability to empathize with the consequences for others of their actions. That\u2019s why there are no limits. You know, pepper-bombing Baghdad. To us, horrific. Terrific emotional consequence. To them, nothing. Just like a computer.<\/p>\n

And they are like computers. And to a large extent, that\u2019s why some of them are so bright, you know. My computer on my desk can work things out quicker than I can in some areas, where it\u2019s just, you know, working out to a program. It has no wisdom. It has no empathy. It has no heart or Consciousness, but on a mental level it can work very quickly.<\/p>\n

And these people are very sharp mentally. There\u2019s no doubt about it. Some of these people are very sharp mentally. But they have no heart, no balancing qualities of Consciousness.<\/p>\n

I\u2019m convinced they\u2019re Artificial Intelligence. When I look at someone like Kissinger, I mean, I see an Artificial Intelligence that has been created by a very, very advanced knowledge and it looks just like you and me because that\u2019s the way we decode it, you know.<\/p>\n

And you know, again, Bill, when you were talking about their rituals and what have you, what are the rituals doing? It\u2019s all about creating a vibrational field. They\u2019re creating an energetic environment that allows these interdimensional entities to move into this dimension, at least briefly. And what they\u2019re also doing is accessing through these rituals the vibrational level of reality, which is the prime level of reality, which we decode into this.<\/p>\n

So, what they\u2019re doing on one level with these rituals — which they often do at vortex points, which are very powerful in affecting the vibrational state of the planet. The communication lines, like meridian lines that we have in the body, the planet has.<\/p>\n

If they do a ritual where a lot of these lines meet, then the vibrational effect of that ritual is going out down these lines and they\u2019re affecting us because we\u2019re being affected by that vibrational level, that prime level. So I\u2019ve no doubt at all they\u2019ve got technology, too, that is creating disharmony within the vibrational level of this reality, which then will create disharmony here, you know?<\/p>\n

And the thing is though… I remember that scene in The Matrix<\/em> – because people read things in different ways. I read Neo\u2019s journey as becoming conscious. I think that\u2019s probably what they meant, but that\u2019s the way I read it, very powerfully.<\/p>\n

There was a point where he\u2019s in a simulation with the Morpheus character, and Morpheus is explaining about the Agents. Now, for Agents<\/em> read people that you\u2019re talking about that have the ability to do incredible things within this reality \u2019cause they understand how it works and they keep it from the people.<\/em><\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Right.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 And people who\u2019ve watched The Matrix<\/em> will remember the scene because the Agent, Agent Smith, is in freeze-frame in this thing, with a gun. And the Morpheus character says to Neo: People have emptied entire clips at them and hit nothing but air. But their strength and their speed is still based on a world based on rules. And because of that, they can never be as fast or as strong as you can be.<\/em><\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Right.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Because within this virtual reality, there are rules to the game. Some of them are called laws of physics and such like. Consciousness overcomes those laws, does not recognize them, is not entrapped by them. So as we become conscious, we move beyond the box that the controlling force is actually in.<\/p>\n

During my talks I put two boxes. One\u2019s got, symbolically, a reptilian on it. On a smaller one it\u2019s got humans on it. What they\u2019ve done, and the whole foundation of how it\u2019s been possible… Because they\u2019re in a box. Otherwise, they wouldn\u2019t be doing what they\u2019re doing.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Absolutely.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 And if they\u2019re Artificial Intelligence, they\u2019re obviously in a box with a lid on that doesn\u2019t open. But they manage to control human society by putting humans in a smaller box than they\u2019re in.<\/p>\n

Again we come back. Symbolic of the box, they\u2019re holding the ball on the bottom of the tank. As we become conscious, we go beyond their potential, and that\u2019s what they\u2019re terrified of.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Let me tell the story about Bill Birnes and Admiral George Hoover. I don\u2019t know if you\u2019ve heard this one, but we\u2019d love to tell this one on camera.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 OK.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Bill Birnes, Los Angeles-based editor of UFO Magazine<\/em>, talked to Admiral George Hoover from the Office of Naval Intelligence before he died, when he was an elderly man. He had one of these turn-around experiences when he was very old, and he started to talk to Bill Birnes about what was really going on.<\/p>\n

Bill Birnes wanted to know about things like the Roswell crash, all of this stuff. And one of the things that George Hoover told Bill Birnes was that the Roswell crash, the Visitors there, they were time travelers. They were us from the future, time-traveling future humans, which we\u2018ve heard from other sources as well.<\/p>\n

The most important thing, though, the biggest secret, was how powerful we are, the Consciousness we have, the ability that we have. And Bill Birnes\u2019 words from George Hoover were: Our ability to manipulate the Consciousness around<\/em> us<\/em>. And if we started to do that, as far as the controllers were concerned, we would create havoc.<\/p>\n

And this is what must not be known. It must not be known how powerful we are. Because the time-traveling future humans used their Consciousness in order to bridge these dimensions.<\/p>\n

What these disks are, according to Hoover, and also according to Philip Corso, who wrote The Day after Roswell<\/em>, is that they are sort of like amplifiers and focusing devices of Consciousness, and the pilots are an integral part of the machine.<\/p>\n

And as any quantum physicist will tell you, it\u2019s Consciousness that actually has the ability to determine whether Schr\u00f6dinger\u2019s cat is alive or dead, to determine probabilistic quantum outcomes, to actually influence reality. You can\u2019t do quantum physics without taking account of Consciousness.<\/p>\n

Therefore this means if you have a very high control, an ability in that realm, it sort of bridges Mind and Consciousness. Then, just as great adepts are said to be able to do, you can bi-locate. So, OK. So we\u2019ll do it all together. We\u2019ll do it in a craft. It\u2019ll help us. It\u2019ll amplify us.<\/em><\/p>\n

And this is what the crafts are. And this is why they were baffled when they opened up these things. They couldn\u2019t find an engine.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 That female voice in the ayahuasca<\/em> experiences said to me: Why do you fly in a plane when you\u2019re only flying through yourself?<\/em><\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 [laughs] Exactly.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 And what came to mind when you were talking there, Bill, was the carry-on of that scene in The Matrix<\/em> with Agent Smith, where he\u2019s saying: He\u2019ll never be as strong and fast as you can be.<\/em><\/p>\n

And then the Neo character says: Do you mean I\u2019ll be able to dodge bullets?<\/em><\/p>\n

No, Neo. When you\u2019re ready, you won\u2019t have to.<\/em><\/p>\n

Controlling your experience, you know. You don\u2019t have to dodge bullets. You\u2019re going to make sure no-one ever shoots at you.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 You aren\u2019t in a position where you have to dodge bullets.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yeah. And you know, people have said to me so many times over the years, right from the early days: Why aren\u2019t you dead?<\/em> And it may sound… you know… I can only say what I know deep inside: They can\u2019t. They can\u2019t. They can\u2019t. They can\u2019t. They can\u2019t<\/em>.<\/p>\n

If we were coming to do something, and all it took was someone to shoot a bullet and it\u2019s all over, what\u2019s the point? They can\u2019t.<\/p>\n

What I would say very strongly, and it\u2019s coming more and more into my life, there is an x-factor which I don\u2019t understand yet but I sure as hell know it\u2019s there. And it\u2019s an x-factor which is going to bring an end to this childish playground nonsense of human control.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Do you mean an external influence?<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 There\u2019s something. Something. I absolutely, at a deep level, I know it. And whenever I think about it, whenever I\u2019ve been clear about what I\u2019m talking about now, what I see clearly is the planet with a cell \/ prison around it, and a big lock, and a key going in.<\/p>\n

And I\u2019ll tell you a funny story. Well, not a funny story. I\u2019ll tell you a story. I was feeling so strongly about this about two weeks ago, and immediately after, I went on the internet and I\u2019m going through, I\u2019m looking for a picture for my talk. And in front of me was a planet in a prison cell, with a big lock on it, which said Master<\/em> on it, and a key.<\/p>\n

That x-factor, that master key, it\u2019s coming. It\u2019s coming. And it\u2019s not going to come like cavalry to save everything, but it is a big factor in… I\u2019m absolutely convinced that the end of this prison society is a done deal. I think the outcome is going to happen. I think it\u2019s meant to happen.<\/p>\n

We\u2019re now seeing, and it will go on for a while, but we\u2019re now seeing the last throes of a dying system where the Illuminati in their box are believing they\u2019re crashing the system to create something else, when it\u2019s actually crashing, ultimately, for another reason.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Is there a real danger? Because you\u2019ve got a cornered tiger that is at its most dangerous when it\u2019s cornered. Is that possible?<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Oh, these people in their panic are going to thrash out in all bloody directions. But, you know, that\u2019s just part of this transition from where we are to where we\u2019re going.<\/p>\n

And the thing is, you know, you can look at the news and you can see the conspiracy moving on. In Britain it\u2019s just getting ridiculous.<\/p>\n

But what you don\u2019t see on the news, and therefore it\u2019s not in your awareness, is how fast the awakening from the amnesic sleep is moving on. And it\u2019s moving on dramatically quickly.<\/p>\n

I\u2019m not saying that tomorrow the sun\u2019s gonna come up and everything\u2019s gonna be fine, you know. We\u2019re deeply into a transitional period here and there\u2019s going to be a lot of challenges, and this thing\u2019s going to move on further. But the outcome, I think, is a done deal. This is going down, and then we can start to create a new society based on Consciousness values rather than the limitations of Mind.<\/p>\n

And I would just say this, because I think this is important. From my point of view it\u2019s important. I think, you know, there\u2019s a great danger that this 2012 thing is going to be a massive, massive diversion.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 It\u2019s a spiritual Y2K.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 [laughs] That\u2019s what I call it, actually, a spiritual Y2K, myself. And me, of all people, who saw a psychic in 1990 and was told a vibrational change was coming. I, of all people, should be saying: Yeah, look! 2012. That\u2019s it. It\u2019s more evidence of vibrational change, the transformation!<\/em> I cannot sync with that at all.<\/p>\n

What\u2019s slightly concerning is the number of emails I get, and other people I know, their websites get, of people saying: What\u2019s the point of doing anything \u2019cause it\u2019s all gonna change in 2012?<\/em><\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Automatically.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 That\u2019s like Obama selling hope, which is always the horse in front on the carousel. No matter how fast you go around, you never get closer to the horse in front. That\u2019s what hope does. What hope is, especially in the way Obama uses it, and what 2012 has the deep potential of becoming, is a holding-position, where people who could be doing something now just wait around. Again, what is 2012 symbolically? It\u2019s the cavalry coming.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Exactly.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Hey! Hey! The cavalry\u2019s here! It\u2019s not coming. It\u2019s here.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Right.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 The cavalry needs to get on its horse, incidentally, and stop waiting for another one to come.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Exactly. I mean it\u2019s like Neo in the place where he\u2019s at, where he realizes that he has the ability to become All-That-Is, and therefore bullets pass through him because he\u2019s no longer There<\/em>-there.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Right.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 He\u2019s actually everywhere. I mean, I know it\u2019s words, but in a sense that is the key that we all hold. And what\u2019s happening in a sense is, with the wave, there\u2019s actually a facilitation that\u2019s happening.<\/p>\n

We\u2019ve been told by various people, but one in particular, Jake Simpson, who has been on the inside, talks about regardless of how you view the future, this wave of energy is actually coming towards our planet, or you could view it as our planet, solar system, is moving into this energy. It is coming.<\/p>\n

So it\u2019s like if you\u2019re surfing and you know a wave is coming, there\u2019s whole groups of people on the planet getting ready to ride the wave. And so in a sense they have to have the key in order to ride the wave. In a sense you could say the surfboard, the Consciousness, the key to understanding who they are and what Consciousness really is and how they are united, which is part of the key.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yeah.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Because we are united. You see, if we know that we are everywhere, and we\u2019re totally linked up… See, I\u2019m in this body right now, you\u2019re in that body right now, and between us it looks like there\u2019s empty space. But in reality this is Consciousness, this space is incorporated, so there is actually no break between you and I and Bill here. We\u2019re all in this sea of Consciousness.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 We\u2019re three tips of the same iceberg.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 That\u2019s why becoming conscious is the bottom line of everything. If we don\u2019t become conscious and move into these realms of understanding this sort of stuff you\u2019re talking about — that we\u2019re all one Consciousness experiencing itself subjectively; life is only a dream; matter is just energy condensed to a slower vibration, as Bill Hicks used to say –unless we come from this perspective, then…<\/p>\n

What\u2019s the key thing of any dictatorship? It\u2019s divide and rule. And so, the whole basis of what they\u2019re doing is taking Consciousness, Consciousness, Consciousness, Consciousness, and dividing it in upon itself.<\/p>\n

You know, what we\u2019re seeing here is, basically, Consciousness so manipulated that it\u2019s at war with itself because it\u2019s come to so… it\u2019s been brought to such a low level of awareness compared with its potential.<\/p>\n

And so the spiritual and the streetwise, the five-cents conspiracy and the understanding of the nature of reality, they\u2019ve got to go together. And you know, for too long they\u2019ve been apart.<\/p>\n

People say: Oh spiritual. That\u2019s New Age. Oh yeah, that\u2019s credible. Spiritual? That\u2019s New Age. Is that credible? <\/em>And all that stuff. They have to come together because as one unit they\u2019re unstoppable. Apart, again, divide and rule; they have a fraction of their potential power for change. If people come from the heart, they\u2019ll know what to do.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Exactly.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 If people come from their head, it will tell them a long list of things why there\u2019s nothing they can do or why there\u2019s no point in doing them.<\/p>\n

We\u2019re at a fork in the road, you know, symbolically, because it\u2019s a balance of the two that we\u2019re looking for, ideally, here. But symbolically it\u2019s a choice between the head and the heart. It\u2019s a head-domination or a heart-domination of our sense of reality.<\/p>\n

If we take the heart route, then this world will transform from a manifestation of Mind to a manifestation of Consciousness. It has to because this is just a projection. This [out-there] has to follow what goes on here [in-here].<\/p>\n

If we take the choice of Mind, then we\u2019re going to live in a global version of Nazi Germany. My strong feeling is, although we\u2019re going to go closer to a global version of Nazi Germany, ultimately the whole thing will collapse because the awakening will cease to hold it together.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 If you were a betting man, what would you say the timescale of events, the rollout, will be over the next one, two, three, five, ten years? If you were a historian, what do you think you\u2019d be writing about?<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 I\u2019d say – and I\u2019m probably being optimistic – I\u2019d say we would live in a global version of Nazi Germany within ten years if we take that route [the head]. If we take that route [the heart], we\u2019ll in ten years\u2019 time be deeply into a transition to a very different world. It\u2019s just a choice.<\/p>\n

But this x-factor is going to help us to change the world to one that I would like to live in. I don\u2019t know what the x-factor is, but I know it\u2019s coming. It\u2019ll be fine.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Wonderful.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Well thank you, David.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Thanks, Kerry.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Fabulous.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 It\u2019s been a pleasure. Thanks, Bill.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 Thank you so much.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Cheers.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 Looking forward to the future.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 Yeah.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 That\u2019s a good wrap.<\/p>\n

KC:\u00a0 And the future is now.<\/p>\n

BR:\u00a0 And the future is now.<\/p>\n

DI:\u00a0 And always was.<\/p>\n


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Schlecht daran?<\/span><\/p>\n

Wer wahr ist, ist das.<\/span><\/p>\n

Ein Zustand, in dem du dich nur zartheitsgeneigt anderen zumuten kannst.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Macht sich Wahr schlagend, ist Raum sch\u00f6n.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Das w\u00fcrde wohl jedes Wesen m\u00f6gen, aber sofort zuschei\u00dferln gleich wieder,<\/span><\/p>\n

gleich wieder die Sch\u00f6nsten den prallsten Egokneten und so fort.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Darum gibt es da ein Schwieriges, um das man wissen sollte, w\u00fcnscht man, nun gepflegtere b-Nehmen-s’Wellen zu betreten, wahrw\u00fcchsig zu welten nun eher doch.<\/span><\/p>\n

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  1. und das ist das GRund<\/span>legende: wenn ich von mir keine gute Meinung haben darf, kann ich mein empfinden nicht wahr<\/span>eiten, mich als nicht wertsch\u00e4tzen, f\u00fcr was wahr ich bin;<\/li>\n
  2. ich kann also dem WEsen, das ich wahr bin, GAR KEIN GR\u00dcCKGRAT WACHSEN..<\/li>\n
  3. ich kann daher auch nicht achsen, also Welten und Kreise beweglich und sie freilassend mit mir drin und dabei auch, und werde, je nach Umweltdruck, irgendwo an- und dann zunehmend verwachsen… schlimm! \u2014🌀\u2014\u2216also mein immer mehr Vonmirwegwachsen und Fremdraumschwinbarwerden, mein Michgarnichtzuf\u00fchlenlernen(d\u00fcrfen) massiviert, ich WAHRENTWERDE, anstatt wahr ich mit anderen anders wahr, nat\u00fcrlich, mitzugedeihen, sagen wir: wie in einem Garten, wo da die Enten schwimmen, hier die Bienen brummen, dort der Dirndlstrauch?Baum bl\u00fcht und so weiter… also da haben wir so viele Kreisl\u00e4ufe und Welten und WEsen.. und alles geht sich zu jedes‘ Gl\u00fcck an einem Sonnentag, und zu der meisten Wiederausdemweinterkommen wundersch\u00f6n aus;<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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